Lan #3 06/07 - Post LAN Feedback

[Sid]

Here's a thread for everyone who came to the LAN to give their opinions on the event. I'll post my own thoughts later once I'm not quite so tired.

[Octavion]

All in all I though it was a good LAN. I particularly enjoyed the serious game of ArmA we had on Sunday and the CS tourney, getting raped at DoW being both painful and fun (holding off Sid and Gor by building turrets in their base was hilarious).

The projector was awesome. The stuff from Crucial was cool even though I didn't win any. :(

A few of things I'd like to see at the next LAN:

1. A big organised game of BF2 like we had in previous LANs possibly with more mini prizes for the winners.

2. Get the gaming up and running earlier on Sunday. It seemed everyone had been up really late on Saturday so didn't get up till about 3 on Sunday. It might be an idea to make sure we stop the gaming at a reasonable time on Saturday as it's more fun to have lots of people ready on the Sunday than a few up late and a few up early.

3. I don't know how much people will like this idea but here goes. As much fun as Dow is, getting raped at it every LAN starts to get a little tiresome. It always seems to be the same teams doing well and everyone else lagging behind because of lack of experience. So how about a random paired 2v2 or even 3v3 tournament, it would hopefully allow the less experienced players to learn a little from the veterans and spice things up a little.

[Sideshow]

Random teams never works, for reasons which have been gone over lots before. Last time we tried it was a 1.6 tourny, and it was bollocks. I don't think anyone had a good time in it - I was fed up in round one, when one of my teammates deliberately TK'd the other.

Good points with (1) and (2) though - so long as you add a 142 to (1)

[Fil2eFly]

was a good Lan the projector was rather 1337 was good to watch the CSS/DOW/LFS final etc

Im not a fan of CSS so better not coment on that to much but i did like the "fun" maps we played. break floor and the like. also was good to watch the final

Thanks very much to yega for the LFS, i was great fun, been told it was prity good to watch on the big screen too , some great races :)

A big organised game of BF2 like the last lan would have been nice,but stil the small games were good

as for DOW i dident bother installing as i hate early game zerg rushes, i recon a little verity in games would be fun , like i duno im sure other poeple like to play some slower paced games where defence and higher teck units are used, or some some coop games agains insane ememy (some may call me a ghey n00b but hey). i jst like games to last longer than 5 mins + i <3 my pink baneblade!

also i recon some more organised games quake , ut and the like, and posible some more source forts and maybe a bit of HL2 DM?

and on a final note that ps2 game was whored to fuck, got a little anoying after a while

but over all,, good lan had a great time!

[Sid]

Well, I’m glad I came to the LAN for the Saturday but I’m not so sure about the Sunday. I do think there were at a lot of really positive things about this LAN but also a lot of negatives although I could group all of the negatives into the “Not enough gaming” category.

Highlights for me were the Dawn of War tournament and the Counter-Strike tournament. I thoroughly enjoyed myself throughout both of those and I think that everyone else who was competing felt the same, although I do have concerns that perhaps the people not playing in the tournament might not have been enjoying themselves. This was what I noticed for myself during the Live for Speed tournament to which I did not enter. Although I’d initially been a fan of the idea of a LFS tournament, it took just 8 people (9 including YegaDoyai) out of the player pool and left the rest of us sitting around watching youtube until that was over. I think a solution would be to run it at a different time or, probably a better solution, have a solid scheduled game running synchronously. I got the impression that the finals on the big screen were enjoyed by all - but that’s just the final. More needs to be done to offer alternatives for those not competing during the tournaments.

It’s quite hard, I know, to offer set games and times in advance to work throughout the entire LAN and this is where I feel that the PA system was dearly missed. Trying to get peoples’ attention to announce that you’re starting a game of game x was ridiculously difficult when people have their headphones on. With the PA system, people have freedom to go up and use it to announce what they’re running. Similarly, with the LCD projector provided by Viper, we should be using that more to get current information on the screen.

I still can’t decide whether I prefer our current loose game organization to a slightly tighter LAN organization such that “Game x is being played” is announced and 20 people would be expected to join before swiftly moving onto Game y after an hour or so. While I don’t like the idea of forcing people to play games they don’t want to, a constant 20+ people per game all through the day is appealing. I think a combination of the PA system, a loud, clear voice, some balls, and a little co-operation from the gamers could really help getting constant games running that are packed with people.

Let’s get a solid “games you should have” posted before the next LAN. I know some of the newer members maybe don’t play a lot of the games we’ve been playing for a while and that a lot of us don’t play the games that they like most. Before the next LAN, let’s work out what ‘new games’ we’re going to give a go and hopefully everyone will be willing to take a few hours out of the whole weekend to give those a chance. Similarly, if everyone makes sure they’ve got the games we commonly play – we can make sure everyone is kept busy for the whole weekend. *See also, the suggestion of a ‘guest tournament’ later in my post*

I think the Guitar Hero detracted from the LAN at times. I’m all for a bit of console action and it certainly seemed like a fun solution to the problem of boredom for those not competing in the tournaments but at other times I felt it took a lot of people out of the main LAN games and for most of the time, the volume was set ridiculously high and annoyed the hell out of most people, yet I recall Fyndir being given abuse for going over to turn the volume down.

Sunday was just a disaster – there was hardly any gaming. Admittedly, I never arrived until almost 2PM which I think was a common problem. One thing people need to do is stop gaming at a reasonable time on Saturday night and be ready to start again late morning on the Sunday. This is reasonable target for everyone next LAN – arrive at 10-11A on Saturday ready to start gaming, stop at 1-2AM on Saturday night and be ready to start gaming at 12pm Sunday. A large competitive Battlefield 2 game on the Sunday at Midday could maybe kick start us. A rotating ‘guest tournament’ would be a good idea, I think – competitive play in a game we’re not too familiar with. I may post a thread for nominations of such a tournament.

The prizes were alright - I’m quite happy as I got a t-shirt and a pig for winning the Counter-Strike and a bag of ready salted crisps for winning the Dawn of War. There should hopefully be a few more things to give away at the next one.

It was great to see a few new faces at the LAN and hopefully they’ll have had a decent weekend and will come back next time! Kudos to Fil2efly in particular for coming such a distance. I propose that we have a night out to the pub in the next week or two for everyone – will be a good chance for a laugh and for the new members to meet each other when they aren’t tired, stinking and absorbed in games.

There are more things for me to rant about but this is all I can think of at this time.

[Tiberio]

I found the LAN a lot better than previous ones, mostly due to the great professional approach taken, however, some things could be improved.

1. Better organisation in regards to games
- I found that games were either started late following the schedule, or people just played whatever they liked.
During the tournaments there wasn't an organised alternative to those not participating.
2. A beginners tournament in DoW would have been nice.
3. I liked the idea of having consoles represented, however, Guitar Hero got annoying due to excessive volume.
4. Earlier ending times would also have been nice, most people didn't show up until 2-3pm on sunday.

Other than that, the projector idea was brilliant, loved the final in LFS!
Perhaps this could be used more in the future, perhaps having one spectator in each game so those not playing could watch the game unfold.
Having access to the internet was a good idea, however, some have mentioned that people were downloading things etc, perhaps it could be stressed that you have to have permission from the board or something, that way only those needing updates or drivers would download and save the rest some bandwitdh too.
Arranging of prizes were perfect for this LAN, we should perhaps find more sponsors in the future?

I found it quite funny that I was accused of cheating in BF2 by the server, and why did I get a prize for my PC when it wasn't even the newest i think?
Was cool though, i like my piggy:)

[Fyndir]

I found it quite funny that I was accused of cheating in BF2 by the server, and why did I get a prize for my PC when it wasn't even the newest i think?

You're a hobbit.

We felt sorry for you. =P

[Fil2eFly]

yeah i agree i think some other/diffrent organised games should be one while the tournys are on for people who well dont like the games what are being played,

i wouldent say sunday was bad but it could have been better, maybe get people playin earlyier in the morning ,, well i cant talk i was asleep on the floot behind my comp untill about 1pm :D

[Phizz]

Live for speed was good, projector was a great little tool too. The thing that worried me about the LAN was the prizes because I think there will be a fair lot of prizes going to particular people. This is not a slur on them at all if anything it is a compliment to the dedication they give to their game of choice. But, I think there need to be more random allocations of prizes so that it doesn't become a little elitist otherwise you're going to make people who game less on the usually heavy played games just give up and not turn up. I would like to see some more smaller games played like Toblo that Pixie linked and more sourceforts. Some people find it boring but at the same time I find games like BF2 and CS:S depressingly repetitive.

[--Mogwai--]

good LAN overall.

the CSS tourney - stands out as the highlight, well organised, lots of fun, lots of people involved. final on the projector was a really nice touch.

the LFS championship/tourney - was quite good, its over and won already though. decent enough # of players, though the sunday was a bit of a mess organisation-wise. it was given a slot for a reason, no?

DoW tourney - was a bit dull except the final (same 2 teams again). maybe a format change for next time (1v1? 3v3?) otherwise me+ru might as well just play sid+gor a one-off for the title.

bf2 - was ok, its never going to be bad in my eyes, but next time a more organised game would be good! like the previous lan, with set commanders and squad-leaders. too many problems with teams, lack of specific ventrilo channels etc, though props to jan, the map rotation was spot on! next LAN id be happy to organise the 'big' BF2 game, maybe with raffle style prizes or somesuch. or perhaps a bf2 3v3 / 4v4 / 5v5 infantry only event if theres enough people wanting to play something like that.

tuckshop - immense.

projector - immense.

consoles - good for folk who dont like the current game, and while it might distract people from pc gaming, it only ever 'steals' 2/3 players at a time.

prizes - a really nice touch, could be a bit more 'pre-planned' with regards to what events earn what prizes (the DoW winners were forgotten and got nothing, for example). as for 'random prizes' - i think prizes are there to be won not randomly allocated. perhaps award prizes to a more varied range of games however, so its not just the CSS and DOW addicts in the running. more 'mini tournaments' in stuff like Unreal or ArmA or Vietcong or Wii Sports could be a good idea. or (as fyndir has mentioned) a lotto style allocation for a few of the games.

suggestions for next LAN - more "tournaments". i.e. more planned games with a set out schedule and rules. especially on the sunday, as an incentive to show up. doesnt have to be anything too heavy, and more than one could be run at once to make sure everyones favourite niche game gets a look in. games that arent BF2 or CSS should have an alternate 'event' running alongside. DoW+LFS for example could have ArmA and 2142 events running simultaneously.

[TK-Maximus]

Post Lan, i'm unsure.

CS:S Tourney and DoW tourney I enjoyed Loads. I have only good things to say about them, but as always, who ever focuses on the good things...

BF2 teams had major problems, and while I did see several people going out of their way to fix them, It would have been much better if we had done as previous and Picked Teams (School ground Politics Ahoy!).

Source Forts, As far as red team went, Devolved into an argument between 2 players, which resulted in our pumping by Blue. No disrespect to Blue, who played and built well, but our team seemed keener to fight each other.

CS:S "Fun Maps" Servers. I clearly got the wrong end of the Stick with this title name. "I" thought that it would be the usual strange maps, gun games, glass floors, blah blah blah. The kind of thing that is fun for a short while, but not massivly tactical or skillful. In fact, it was a case of "Wow, wont it be hilarious if I turn gravity off midway through the round". Games are fun if the players enjoy them. Players wont enjoy them if you change the rules part way through. That is True of Any kind of game, Computer or Otherwise. I've learned my lesson here, NEVER enter this server.

UT:GOTY. Absent, which is a shame. It's often good for warmups and between game games.

I, like most it seems, would be keen to see more organised play. I have a plan for DoW which I will work on and write up for example. I would say though that I think Organised games during Tournaments or other big games are a bad idea and detract from the Tornament. I for example don't play Vietcong (I hate it) or LFS (I suck at driving games), but I'm not going to try and persuade people to play a different game while it's going on. If for exampe I had tried and succeeded to rustle up a game of 2142 while LFS was on, 1-3 players would probably have left LFS for it. That defeats the purpose of organised play.

[Hash0r]

Evening all,

This is from a noob to the lan so the crap im about to type might be reasonable...but then again it might not!

Anyway, overall I had a really good time, most of the gaming was fun and the banter had by all was first class. I just have a few things to say about the structure of the lan for ppl like myself that may only play a few games (in my case BF2 and CS:S). When i first arrived just before noon on the saturday I was happy to find that BF2 was the first game to be played. But as things progressed I found myself playing less and less until the counterstrike tournament started.

Im not complaining that different games were played but I just think that for ppl like myself and possible other new members that the first few hours of the lan is set aside for scheduled games to be shared. this also gives ppl the chance to get to grips with the controls and feel of the game. For the rest of the guys that have played all these games before it sets time aside for them to aid the players that have not. either that or they can turn up an hour or 2 later (or the lan could start an hour or two earlier). I also think that the competitive tournaments should be left til late saturday or on sunday, allowing new members or players that havnt played a game much to participate as i found myself sitting out of the dawn of war and live for speed competitions.

All in all i think that a good structure to the LAN is necessary, i know this will be contested but it allows people like me to prepare for actually taking part in every tournament available and not sitting twiddling my thumbs (or drinking buckfast in my case) and actually getting involved. I had a good time because im pretty mellow, but if we want to attract new members and get them to come back then we need to make sure that everyone is able to take part in the majority of games.

although i agree with m0gwai about the dodgy "random" prizes I think it was a nice touch - I was really really chuffed with mine and im proper grateful. I think if theres a little "sumit-sumit" in it for everyone at each LAN - even just crappy little prizes that cost next to nothing, then it would attract more ppl - I got home, and my mates asked me how my "gaming weekend" was, I told them I won a prize for drinking lots and they were instantly interested. So theres a suggestion

HasH :razz:

[DAve]

I've not read the thread, because I don't want to read why others thought this was a good lan until I've said something.

For me, this was one of the best lans I've ever been to, for a few clear reasons:
#) projector
#) socialising
#) organisation
#) server

The projector was a winner, especially for replays of the CS:S match and the LFS round. More than that, it got everyone together and that's just not happened at previous lans. It was really the best bit - and for me, what makes lans fun.

The organisation of the event was excellent, online within 5 mins, excellent throughout and the fliers were great too.
Projecting the games onto the board was a good idea too.

Jan ran an excellent server throughout - max uptime, min lag, games constantly up.

Games were excellent. BF2, SF, LFS, CS, Guitar Hero. All I wanted to play & more.

Cons:
#) What happened to the gigabit network? I must have been on a different backbone and only saw 100. Either way, I managed to get the 500mb BF2 patch in under a minute, so it's really a minor question rather than a complaint.
#) I'm much worse at LFS than I thought. Damnit.

[DAve]

As much fun as Dow is, getting raped at it every LAN starts to get a little tiresome.
How about a n00b tourny?
Handicaps, maybe?

A beginners tournament in DoW would have been nice.

He's already suggested this. Oh well.

tuckshop - immense.
projector - immense.
prizes - a really nice touch, could be a bit more 'pre-planned'

Forgot to mention the tuck shop. Whoever came up with that is a genius.

I forgot to say that I liked the 'slot' system for games. I'm not sure how everyone else felt, but there seemed to be a bit of leeway for the games to overrun if they're popular, or for people to turn up unfeasably late for LFS. Yeah, I know I turned up late on Saturday too. There were transport issues. Sorry.

[Uuurrahh]

Finally summoned the effort to write this.

Overall I enjoyed the LAN alot, despite some problems that have already been mentioned. But I'll mention them again. ho ho ho

BF2 - Was fairly good. The playtime on it wasn't as excessive as in other LANs [I remember being bored shitless of it at the last LAN] and it was fairly fun. However we need another organised BF2 game, but that's solved as mogwai appears to be organising one in the other thread :)

CSS - I loved the funmaps and for the most part wasn't actually getting pwned [I think some of Hobbit's h4x transferred]. And I fully support Fyndir's gravity changing - they are fun maps after all, and are not to be taken seriously. But I am biased, as I had lots of fun jumping on Phizz's head with the M249. Missed out on the CSS tournament, however I think I might hop in for the next one if there's going to be one run at the next LAN.

LFS [and projector] - The LFS tournament was very enjoyable as a spectator activity. The official qualifying and finals were excellent to watch thanks to the projector. An LFS Destruction Derby would be very much appreciated. And so would the pr0j3ctz0r at the next LAN. But please, not so much bloody guitar hero.

ArmA - I enjoyed the Sunday ArmA games rather alot. The game was a bit gimped by the fact it was the demo, however the UK release is on the 16th of February and I shall see about getting h4x3d copies for those who're not buying it. On sid's suggestion, I'll look into running an ArmA tournament at the LAN [that everyone is going to play, of course :P] that I'll post more details on sometime in the near future.

VIET-FUCKIN'-CONG - http://www.klan-pmp.pl/zdjecia_broni/PPSh-41.jpg
Very enjoyable.

I think that's about it. Jan, do we get a status report on how much bandwidth we used? :P

[Fil2eFly]

yeah , i prity much agree with what all has been said, although i de belive some look rather on the negative side and dont mention some fo the good parts e.g. the exelent server memegement ..

by yeah some alternative games may e a good idea, ispecialy while the larger tournys are on CSS, DOW, even if some "fun" varients of these games are hosted while the tournsy are on, like as iv said b4 fun dow games or fun css :P.or jst some totaly diffrent organised games are up for those who wish to play

but i agree with euan, i liked the fun css games, the lacking of gravity at times jst added to the randomness, breakfloor and the like can be played seriously but i belive its much more fun if there is a bit of chaos :) low gravity and spamming of the m249

and yeah vietcong was a great laugh

also a little veriation of games on the big screen ps2 got old, i duno, parhaps i could take my xbox next time some 4player halo2 may be fun ?

[noodle]

also a little veriation of games on the big screen ps2 got old, i duno, parhaps i could take my xbox next time some 4player halo2 may be fun ?

I also have a projector, and Halo... 8 player, 2 massive screens... tasty! :P Maybe a 4vs4 tourney next time?

The lan was great! The only downside was i was so tired on sunday, due to staying up till god knows when. The room upstairs was only mentioned on sunday night to me, I managed ok with my row of chairs and sleeping bag tho.

100 points fot the lift! Thanks! Wouldn't have been able to make it without it!

[GingerPrinz]

Hilarious that there's now interest for Xbox play when that lad who organised the Xbox LAN got so roundly shouted down on here... I think console games are best kept as a sideshow attraction at a LAN rather than an 8 player double projector extravaganza.

[Fil2eFly]

I also have a projector, and Halo... 8 player, 2 massive screens... tasty! :P Maybe a 4vs4 tourney next time?

The room upstairs was only mentioned on sunday night to me, I managed ok with my row of chairs and sleeping bag tho.
it!

yeah thats would be cool 4x4 xbox halo/halo2:)

floor ftw tbh :D adds to it i belive, :D

[LastChanceHotel]

#) What happened to the gigabit network? I must have been on a different backbone and only saw 100. Either way, I managed to get the 500mb BF2 patch in under a minute, so it's really a minor question rather than a complaint.

The gigabit network is unfortunately only for the backbone (switch-to-switch and switch-to-server) - this means that you lot can only download/upload at 100Mbps, whereas the gameserver and fileserver (which was my machine this time) won't get their connections clogged when someone goes and downloads something.

On a side note, windows file transfer caps out at about 140Mbps anyway, so even if everyone had gigabit it wouldn't have made much difference! :D

I think that's about it. Jan, do we get a status report on how much bandwidth we used? :P
Yep, we used 2.1GB of transfer, 1.4GB of that was someone leaving steam on overnight! Seeing as the QM pays for bandwidth over their 20gb cap at £1 per gig, that's pretty good going. Everyone (well, almost everyone) was sensible with the bandwidth this time, so I think we did pretty well!

Adding my own comments, everything went really well from my point of view. Aside from some technical issues with me trying to connect to the sourceforts server (only me, unfortunately!), I managed to participate in everything I wanted to.

On another note.... I can get use of another projector ;)

And guitar hero could do with being played less, and turned down when people were doing something else.

What could we do with three projectors?

[Uuurrahh]

What could we do with three projectors?

Anyone know any good porn DVDs that come with multiple camera angles?

[Phizz]

I think Jan was thinking more about perhaps showing all 3 matches of CS:S at the same time.

[Sid]

It seems that most folk have posted their opinions about the previous LAN. Hopefully now this thread can turn into a way to resolve the issues of the previous LAN and to continue doing the things we were doing right.

I've tried to sum up most of the points. I'm sorry if I've missed anything out - it wasn't deliberate.

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HIGHLIGHTS
CS Tournament
Dawn of War tournament (but possible structure change to make it more enjoyable for low-skilled while avoiding random teams)
Tournament finals on projector
Counter-strike fun maps
Live for speed tournament
New faces at the LAN.
Tuckshop

CHANGES
More happening during tournaments for those not competing.
Need big organised game of BF2
People need to start earlier on Sunday ie. stop gaming Saturday night.
A little Quake and Unreal Tournament.
Give some of the games that the newer members bring, a chance.
A little less Guitar Hero and at lower volumes.
A PA system required for announcements
Try to stick to timetable.
Perhaps display a game on the projector during *all* tournament matches (not just finals).
Pre-planned and pre-announced prizes for the tournaments.

CONTROVERSIAL
Prize allocation - awarded randomly or based on skill?
More consistency on the fun maps server? ie. no random gravity changes?

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And here are my suggestions for the next LAN.

The CS tournament will return next LAN due to popular demand. The exact format is still to be arranged but you'll hear about it nearer the time.

For the Dawn of War tournament, I think Pit is devising a new and better tournament structure, so providing he's happy arranging that tournament, I'll leave it to him. Hopefully this will cater for both high-skilled and those playing for fun.

Yega will be organising and running a Live for Speed tournament again this LAN which was enjoyed by many last LAN.

With all the tournaments, the finals will be shown on the big screen and a secondary game will be running in the background for those not competing. There is the possibility of showing other tournament matches (not just the final) on the big screen, projector permitting.

Larry is going to be organising a big battlefield 2 game and there is a dedicated thread already posted for that in which the structure will be made clear.

I believe we may see a new 'guest tournament' slot where we can try a game that is not one of the usuals. I believe Euan is organising an Arma tournament and there is talk of a Starcraft tournament.

We can also make sure that we throw in some Quake, Unreal etc. and perhaps a little more Sourceforts.

The tuckshop will be continuing this LAN with a little more stock that last time, I assume - as we ran out of the soda pretty quick! In addition to that, Graeme from KustomPCs is coming down to LAN with us and will be selling a selection of typical caffeinated 'gaming' drinks e.g. Jolt, Mountain Dew, Bawls etc. (Note: He will also deliver any order from kustompcs.co.uk to the LAN, saving you delivery charges - I'll post more about this later).

In order to continue getting new faces at the LAN and keep them interested, we're running a separate night out in a couple of weeks that I hope everyone will come along to. I hope the new members had a good time and will bear in mind that we're constantly improving the LAN and making it better. The e-mail will go out as normal announcing the LAN and hopefully you'll all tell yer mates to come along! We're also trying to get a merger with Strathclyde on the go, but that's not likely to be implimented in time for this LAN.

In terms of timetabling, it would be really helpful if people make it along to the club at the right times so that we've got good numbers for all the games - but it's really all in your own hands. So let's just hope that everyone makes a good effort to arrive in time to have their computer set up by 11am on the Saturday and get to bed at a reasonable time on Saturday night in time for a Noon gaming start on Sunday.

We are going to be continuing to give out prizes at this LAN. SteelSeries are donating 5 mousemats and kustompcs.co.uk are going to be donating a few prizes too! More on that later! Hopefully the prizes will be announced in advance, too. I personally think that random prizes are a good idea and that we should buy some small fun things to dish out as smaller prizes at the LAN but keep the larger things like mousemats and other gear for skill-based competitions.

For guitar hero, the point that it only takes 2-3 people out of the main game is valid. Assuming there is quality gaming going on, the guitar hero won't be an issue. Jan mentioned getting a projector along, too - so that'll hopefully mean we can have a few things happening on the screen at once. In terms of the volume, it definitely needs to be kept down to a level quieter than what it was as it clearly got on a lot of peoples' nerves. But I'm sure now that people realise that - it won't be a problem.

What do you guys think?

[Sideshow]

Sshhhhhhh! Don't let Ming hear about the Starcraft tourney!

[LastChanceHotel]

words words words

I think that's everything covered. Nothing else springs to mind. :)

Good work!

[Fyndir]

Sshhhhhhh! Don't let Ming hear about the Starcraft tourney!

Nono, we WANT him to hear about it.

COME BACK MING, WE MISS YOU!

[Sid]

Here's my proposal for the timetabling:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/craigjohnstone/sids_potential_timetable.jpg

I'm not quite sure what games to put in as secondary games during the tournaments etc, though.

[Phizz]

I vote for a lot of background sourceforts then. I'm not gonna be in any of the BF2 or 2142 action.

[Fil2eFly]

Here's my proposal for the timetabling:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/craigjohnstone/sids_potential_timetable.jpg

I'm not quite sure what games to put in as secondary games during the tournaments etc, though.

i recon that looks realy good , i would be happy there playing some main games and scondary games , gj :)

Hilarious that there's now interest for Xbox play when that lad who organised the Xbox LAN got so roundly shouted down on here... I think console games are best kept as a sideshow attraction at a LAN rather than an 8 player double projector extravaganza.

well i dont realy agree tbh, im a new member i know and dont want to piss any 1 off but,, i recon as long as people are haveing fun dose it matter what is played, pc or xbox? even if there is jst one, and it could be timetabled in as a seconadry game or, as something to play whe your bored, rather than jst guitar hero :D

[GingerPrinz]

No I agree that fun is the number 1 priority Fil2eFly, but using 2 projectors is a large resource drain on something that A) only 8 people can play and B) slightly takes away from the "LAN Gaming" point of Pause. My point is where does it stop, it's not the last day of school where you all bring in your favorite game - there is an Xbox LAN society at Glasgow Uni, if you want to play Xbox, probably best joining them as well as Pause.

I also think that Sourceforts, while a good mod, is so hard to break into for new players. I have never seen a game of sourceforts that at some point doesnt turn into someone experienced just taking all the blocks that new players have placed and putting them where they're "supposed" to be placed. I think games of such specialised natures should be kept to a minimum tbh. As it stands it's looking like I'm gonna be missing the next LAN anyway as my machine will only run about 1/3 of the games on the schedule - but i'll be back when I can afford it.

[Muppet]

In reference to Guitar Hero complaints - of which me and Strings were playing for a good while on Sunday afternoon (might of been that you were all talking about) - it doesn't kill you to come over and just say:

"Can you turn it down a bit please? I can't here anything in my game"

Instead of coming on and moaning about it AFTER the LAN.

Timetable looks good Sid. And as for the projector and using it to show the Source final, how about setting it to 0 delay and just turning it around so the players can't see the screen but we can still watch it live.. gives it more "intensity" i think.. (when you hear people moaning and know why instead of waiting 30 secs to look for it :p )

[Fyndir]

In reference to Guitar Hero complaints - of which me and Strings were playing for a good while on Sunday afternoon

I think it was more the constant guitar hero all of Saturday night that started annoying people. =O

[Fil2eFly]

No I agree that fun is the number 1 priority Fil2eFly, but using 2 projectors is a large resource drain on something that A) only 8 people can play and B) slightly takes away from the "LAN Gaming" point of Pause. My point is where does it stop, it's not the last day of school where you all bring in your favorite game - there is an Xbox LAN society at Glasgow Uni, if you want to play Xbox, probably best joining them as well as Pause.

I also think that Sourceforts, while a good mod, is so hard to break into for new players. I have never seen a game of sourceforts that at some point doesnt turn into someone experienced just taking all the blocks that new players have placed and putting them where they're "supposed" to be placed. I think games of such specialised natures should be kept to a minimum tbh. As it stands it's looking like I'm gonna be missing the next LAN anyway as my machine will only run about 1/3 of the games on the schedule - but i'll be back when I can afford it.

yey i agree with that, but i recon, the current set up (1 screen) and its used when there is a gap for a tourny that people have no intrest in rather than a main game or atraction,

as for source forts , well every 1 has got to start some where, iv only played it a few times , and that has been at the lans. at the first LAN i was like hum wtf and jst watched people building and practived placeing blocks out of the way and left the building up to the others , but at the second land i knew how to play and helped build the fort

[Phizz]

If anyone actually wants to get some pause sourceforts going I'll be more than happy to join in. Make it a regular thing say... monday night? We'll take over a server and just keep playing. If people need help I'll take them to a dead server and give em a quick run down anytime. I don't pretend to be an expert but I do know how to build some good walls.

[YcMing]

Aww ... Sounds like a success the last lan :). And just seeing starcraft on the game list excite me already and not could even be a tournament :O.

As much as i love the game .. i do understand that, there are hardly anyone in the lan that plays it, so would be really difficult to gather enough players for the tourney :). But sure, it could happen, i await for any further annocements :)

(come on people , give it a try!!) Looking at the game (starcraft), is old, grahpic ain;t great ..... but if you do see pass that, the game play / balance is just amazing ......

[GingerPrinz]

Nah Ming, I think most people's problem with Starcraft, like most RTS games, is you're either insane at them, or you get hopelessly pumped by an insane guy. That said, Zergling rush is pretty easy to learn, why don't you start teaching people Ming!! You and Sideshow could run the KingMing school of starcraft.

[Sid]

I think we've got a good enough number for a tournament, though. I've never played the game before but I'm going to install it in the next few days and hopefully get respectable in time for LAN.

YcMing: Are you coming to the next LAN, by the way?

[Fyndir]

You and Sideshow could run the KingMing school of starcraft.

That would be fucking EPIC.

[YcMing]

Nah Ming, I think most people's problem with Starcraft, like most RTS games, is you're either insane at them, or you get hopelessly pumped by an insane guy. That said, Zergling rush is pretty easy to learn, why don't you start teaching people Ming!! You and Sideshow could run the KingMing school of starcraft.

Well i think that applies to almost half respectable games :). I mean i tried playing Cs 1.6 online, all i done was getting killed eveyrtime it started ...

There are learning curve for every single games, i think once u learn the basic and get pass the first leap, surely the game will get fun when u play against people at your own level. I mean, there will always be people that are better than you and people that can outright dominate you.

well is nice people are putting a little effort into it, sure ask me on msn (a_pure_bam@hotmail.com)or something, i just love talking about the game :P


Yeah put me down for the next lan :P

[Sid]

Yeah put me down for the next lan :P

Nice one! New signup system now - you gotta hit the RSVP options to say "Yes" in the following thread:

http://www.pausegaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=897