Things we most want from GUNS (besides the Games)

[DAve]

I was thinking of how to make your lives better at the LAN / offline.

So far I've come up with:

Web hosting. Want your files from all the one place, sure. - £60 ish
Kettle. Cups of coffee and tea on tap. - £10
<strike>Blackjack and hookers</strike> See Sideshow for poker :)
spare mouse / keyboard. People forget things - £10
Munchies - food for the LAN. £varies

Anything else you chaps want?

[Strings]

Web Hosting for patches, maps, cfgs etc is a cool idea.

Coffee on tap is a great idea also.

Poker yep.

Spare mouse/keyboard... not too sure about this one. Might encourage people to be lazy and just rely on GUNS to supply them with equipment.

Mumchies... definitely :)

This might be a dumb question... but do you run something like Vent or Teamspeak on the server?

[Bluepixie]

Teamspeak is a good idea. Definately for Ghost Recon and Raven Shield. However, if we're playing as two opposing teams, we would need two servers...suppose that's not really a problem.

Other things I would like to see.

LAN

1. "Borrow" the white board from the Williams room and use it as a planning board for game times/break times.

2. Waitress serving cocktails and other refreshments

3. A projector showing the leading player during games.

Maybe not the last 2. :P

But having some kind of notice board could v.handy. Erm, and a kettle would rock, big time. No mircowave though, I'm not having Phizz taking mircowavable burger thingys. Would just be wrong.
As far as munchies go, I think that it would be better if we just take our own stuff. People like eating/drinking different things and it would just be extra hassle.

Would these extra things be coming out of the GUNS accounts? What about setting up our own server?

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

we could do the muchies thing as a joint order from tesco online. that would save some hassle, no? then we would have one account and everybody would pay what they owed to the account holder..

[DAve]

teamspeak is a great idea. Will look into it at home. Could easily serve two or more chats / fireteams on the file server.

Tesco deliveries are another great idea :)
"3 cooked chickens, 24 crates of beer and a some value crisps please."

Poaching the whiteboard. Hmm. Perhaps a A1 pad of our own?
Would be very useful for organising . keeping track of scores / gloating over hard-won victories :)

[Strings]

I just said Teamspeak so youd get the right idea heh. In reality, avoid Teamspeak. Teamspeak 2 is meant to be an improvement.. but its not :?

The one you want is Ventrilo. Same VoIP style except less system intensive and just clearer IMO.

And you wont need two servers. Ventrilo when its in its server mode can have as many "channels" as you like. So you could have two teams on different channels playing CS:S. 2 people in a Starcraft channel, two playing Q3 and perhaps one guy by himself singing.

In my clan for example we have a public channel and a match channel. Nice and simple.

I can get all the software for that if you want, fairly easy to set up. :)

[Exuus]

Teamspeak does multiple channels as well.

[DAve]

The one you want is Ventrilo. Same VoIP style except less system intensive and just clearer IMO.
...
I can get all the software for that if you want, fairly easy to set up. :)
Sweet. I'm all for easy, simple solutions. I was going to try Teamspeak, but will leave that as a backup. Ventrilo sounds much nicer.

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[Sideshow]

I've got the bare bones of the game scheduler written (hereafter known as GameCall); today was a productive Monday at work :)

It looks like this:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/_sideshow/GameCall.png

At the LAN, it'd be nice if we could get it set up on one of DAve's servers, with some kind of monitor output, preferably an easily visible one. It's 640x480, so it can display on a TV, if someone has a TV out. And a TV.

[YegaDoyai]

v. fancy.

Nicework

<gives sideshow a biscuit>

[Sideshow]

<shclarf>

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

are you gonna be able to incorporate a points monitor? is there anything downloadable that would do that?

[YegaDoyai]

most games can be asked to dump game stats into a text file so if we knew where it was going it wouldn't be much issue.

[Sideshow]

are you gonna e abel to incorporate a pointsl monitor? is there anything downloadable that would do that?

sorry, can you say that again, in English?

[Bluepixie]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8075/iwannarock6rm.gif

[Sideshow]

Uh. What?

[Strings]

lol :D

[YcMing]

more starcraft players :P, j/k j/k.

Hmm i am quite likinng what it is just now.

[Phizz]

ok, the burgers were a bad idea but at least I was thinking of something to do. I'll be making a ton of sponge for the next LAN and definately up for some poker. Been watching it on the tele. You guys know how to play Texas Hold Em?

[Sideshow]

Is Texas Hold'Em the one with the two cards in your hand, and five on the table? I'd like to give that a go. Anyone else?

[YegaDoyai]

poker = waste of £600+ of computer so you can count me out.

[Bluepixie]

poker = waste of £600+ of computer so you can count me out.

I wouldn't worry too much about that. They only play for about £5 normally.

[DAve]

I agree with YegaDoyai and BluePixie. Poker seems a waste of kit and not really lan-able.

You could always organise a poker-playing club at GU if you like, I could offer some tips on starting up a society :D

[Sideshow]

I agree with bluepixie that we normally play for about £5

[DAve]

I agree with bluepixie that we normally play for about £5
Unless some oik insists that you give up your winnings if you have to go home.

But like the Murphys, I'm not bitter. ;)

[Sideshow]

Unless some oik insists that you give up your winnings if you have to go home.

Good point. Next time we're playing deathmatch, I'll be sure to leave as soon as I'm ahead, thus ensuring my win.

[YegaDoyai]

I'm not worried about losing money, I can do that spectacularly well. I'm upset that the time/money investment made to my computer is going to waste. My computer might start to resent me, like my last one did and stop working. That would be bad. Everyone knows that you had to talk your Spectrum/BBC/Other tape loader to load the new game you bought while offering your sisters soul to a relevant deity and chanting praise to the immortal error #40 code god (unexpected load error).

I made that last part up BTW. I needed a good ending and in actual fact I never really used tapes cos my dad nicked a floppy drive for our BBC from work so I didn't have to worry about the volume being to high/low or some equal crap. But I do remember having to think aclming thoughts to get the BBC to work properly. :)

[Phizz]

Texas Hold Em works with the 5 cards
the first 3 are the flop
the 4th is something else
the 5th is the river card.
Watch Ch4 tonight at 12.40 for more info.
I'm hooked.

[Sideshow]

cool. I'm sure there'll be enough players to get a game

[Bluepixie]

I'm not worried about losing money, I can do that spectacularly well. I'm upset that the time/money investment made to my computer is going to waste. My computer might start to resent me, like my last one did and stop working. That would be bad. Everyone knows that you had to talk your Spectrum/BBC/Other tape loader to load the new game you bought while offering your sisters soul to a relevant deity and chanting praise to the immortal error #40 code god (unexpected load error).

I made that last part up BTW. I needed a good ending and in actual fact I never really used tapes cos my dad nicked a floppy drive for our BBC from work so I didn't have to worry about the volume being to high/low or some equal crap. But I do remember having to think aclming thoughts to get the BBC to work properly. :)

I agree. I had to take my machine apart AGAIN yesterday cos it turned out I was shorting my motherboard.

Yes. Lets not piss off our machines.

I think poker may just upset it. And please please correct me if I'm wrong, but do we not get together for computer games? We can play cards anytime! If we're having a break at 2:00am, we should play hide 'n' seek in the SRC building!

[YegaDoyai]

so long as by 'hide and seek' you mean AVP

[Exuus]

If we're having a break at 2:00am, we should play hide 'n' seek in the SRC building!


Seconded! This man is a genius!

[Phizz]

Erm... Hide and seek would be good if the place wasn't locked down. There ain't much in the way of places to hide in the SRC.

[YegaDoyai]

you need to be more 'creative' in your method of hiding

[Phizz]

?! You mean like the technique GI's in Vietnam are supposed to have learnt?

[YegaDoyai]

no, creating booby traps/planting mines is considered 'bad sport' when playing hide and seek.

[Exuus]

:(

**Puts away his homemade claymores.**

[YegaDoyai]

BAD Exuus!

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

?! You mean like the technique GI's in Vietnam are supposed to have learnt?

You mean the grenade in the baked beans can? thought that was the Viet Cong?

[Bluepixie]

:(

**Puts away his homemade claymores.**

Will punish you for teamkilling. Even though I saw it. :p

[Phizz]

I mean being able to hide in plain sight. No booby traps. Although... hiding behind those big pair of jugs at LAN #2 would been a good place to hide. :-D

[DAve]

Jut found out that Teamspeak (http://www.gentoo-portage.com/media-sound/teamspeak2-server-bin) is found on the gentoo portage page. (portage is the general installer and compiler for gentoo linux). Therefore, this weekend I'll try and get it on the linux server and host a server internally in a trial run for the next LAN.

[YegaDoyai]

that would be sweet

[Phizz]

There are better progs out there than Teamspeak though. I cn't remember em but my flatmate's back in 2 days and he does.

[DAve]

I don't dispute there are better progs than teamspeak out there, but TS is easy and simple to set up on gentoo. I'll try that at the LAN (unless there are any better and just-as-easy alternatives) and if it sucks, we can try something else.

[Phizz]

I'll get a d/l of the ones he's recommended and bring em with me.

[Strings]

Ventrilo is a lot more resource friendly mate and better quality of sound.. but if Gentoo doesnt support it, just go for TS

[DAve]

After a bit of digging, it looks like <a href-"http://www.gentoo-portage.com/media-sound/ventrilo-server-bin">gentoo does support ventrilo</a>
[eats words]

I'll install them both so we can have a decent comparison at the lan. Mmmm, testing :)

[DAve]

Teamspeak and Ventrilo are now installed on the GUNS linux (gentoo) server. I've got windows backups that I can run off my machine as well (just in case :)

I've even tested it so I know it works on a local network.
I'm dead chuffed, me :)

[Strings]

Two things. One minor and one a serious concern.

Minor:

What version of Vent is it? Just so I can replace the one Im using atm :)

Serious:

Now look at my forum ranking. Normally I wouldnt care.. but youve actually ranked a five-seven higher than the Mac10! And who knows what else.

So.

The challenge is, you give me a weapon. ANYTHING save a knife... against a five-seven. I guarantee I will take you down. Damn five-seven.

[Sideshow]

Just because he did a shit in the oven is no reason to talk it. The only reason a mac 10 is ranked higher than the knife is because there is the slim chance, however improbable, that you'll get a kill with it outside melee range.

[Strings]

Well obviously the Mac10 is higher than a knife. But a Mac10 is lower than the five-seven?

[YegaDoyai]

I accept your challenge Strings, see you on the 1st. :)

[Sideshow]

The rankings:

# (000) Glock
# (010) DualElites
# (020) Knife
# (030) Scout
# (040) MAC-10
# (050) P228
# (060) Five-Seven
# (070) USP
# (080) Shotgun
# (090) UMP
# (100) TMP
# (110) P90
# (120) MP5
# (135) Deagle
# (150) Galil
# (170) FAMAS
# (190) Autoshot
# (210) Autosniper
# (235) PARA
# (260) AWP
# (290) STEYR
# (320) Commando
# (365) M4A1/AK-47


Ranked in general power/usefulness. Looking at it, I think the only weapon unduly affected by my personal bias is the Scout, which shold probably be a bit higher... I'll stand by the rest though. Cost is factored into the equation - obviously the five seven is better than the USP, but the USP is free.

I foresee... a T v's CT, Mac10 v's five seven showdown. Shotgun CT! All we have to do is make sure we fight them more than 10 feet away, and they can't win! :)

[DAve]

What version of Vent is it? Just so I can replace the one Im using atm :)
The recent one. 2.3.1 I think. They all should be compatible.
version compatability
If I download version 2.1.1 client will I still be able to connect to a server still using the 2.1.0 version ?
Reply:
The first 2 digits donate server compatibility...
2.1.x works with all 2.1.x systems...

http://www.ventrilo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1348&highlight=compatibility

Now look at my forum ranking. Normally I wouldnt care.. but youve actually ranked a five-seven higher than the Mac10! And who knows what else.
Dude, it's a ranking. It will change in 9 posts. It's meant to be a bit of fun.

The challenge is, you give me a weapon. ANYTHING save a knife... against a five-seven. I guarantee I will take you down. Damn five-seven.
Actually, I think this is a good way to settle arguements, it's even in the constitution.

Altogether now:

Two men enter, one man leave!
Two men enter, one man leave!
Two men enter, one man leave!
Two men enter, one man leave!

[Sideshow]

Dude! Leaves. God damn, they might be post-apocalyptic barbarians, but they do know how to speak a sentence that's grammatically correct.

[YegaDoyai]

What?!? Are you seriously telling me that grammar gets you upset? On THIS forum? I hope you don't look to far 'outside'. This forum has so far been one of the best spelt and written forums I frequent. The banning of leet speak helps. You're not a Eng Lit are you?

[Sideshow]

I'll abuse the english language along with the rest of you. But when it's a direct quote, I get antsy. I was correcting the quote, not the grammar - the grammar comment was for humour... obviously that didn't work...

[YegaDoyai]

no, it is such a flat medium. I assumed you were genuinly annoyed that he got it wrong. What the hell is the quote from?

[Sideshow]

I can't believe you don't, on some subconcious level, know, so I'm going to give you some clues...

Mel Gibson
Tina Turner
We Don't Need Another Hero

[YegaDoyai]

I thought so but it's soooo long since I last saw it I couldn't be sure. Thanks

[DAve]

Bearing in mind it was 1985, and I was about 12 when I saw it, I think I did rather well just to remember what film it was from, actually :)

Beiseds my speilng is uslually a bit off.

[Strings]

Just joking really, ranking system be cool. But I do think a 1v1 Mac10 vs a five-seven would be fun. Yega, you got no chance mate with a five-seven :P

[Sideshow]

my money's on the doyai

[YegaDoyai]

errrr, no. I don't like the pressure of money being put on this but thanks for the support sideshow. It'll be fun finding out. :)

(disclaimer: I'm not the best CS:S player we have so you'd BETTER beat me)

[Sideshow]

hey, don't worry about it - you'll have a five-seven, and he'll have a mac 10. No contest.

[Strings]

Im wondering if we are thinking of the same gun?

Five-Seven be the crappy no damage pistol which has a bazillion rounds.

Mac10 is basically like a TMP as far as Im concerned, cept less powerful I think.

Just in case though... best outta 3?

[Sideshow]

Five-seven is the dead-on balls acurate pistol, kinda like an upgraded USP
Mac 10 is kinda like a 1 shell shotgun, only it fires every individual piece of buckshot seperately and consecutively

[YegaDoyai]

Sideshow hit it on the head there. Exactly how I'd describe it but he used more humor.

[Strings]

Righty just played a wee demo on my laptop and researched.

Mac10 is practically identical to the TMP (it aint a shotgun, thats the M3). Difference is the Mac10 has 20 less ammo, but is more powerful.

Five-Seven indeed is the most accurate pistol in the game, it carries 20 rounds and it is weaker than slapping the Terrorist with a dead fish.

You can check up on those facts. But the Mac10 is definitely an SMG matey. Yega has to get at least 6 headshots in a row I think :twisted:

[Sideshow]

damn. <slap head on keyboard> must <bang> remember <whack> GUNS members <wollop> take everything <smack> literally <crunch>. Oops. Anyone got a spare laptop keyboard?

[YegaDoyai]

You doubting the 6 headshots then? Remember I can get them from outside of 10 yards. Which you can't (with the mac10). It'll be a fun little contest.

[Strings]

Thats a point. With my observer created reality, I cant use the five-seven :)

[Bluepixie]

damn. <slap head on keyboard> must <bang> remember <whack> GUNS members <wollop> take everything <smack> literally <crunch>. Oops. Anyone got a spare laptop keyboard?

hahahahaha! :lol:

Thanks, you just made my day. :) My money is on Yega. MAC-10 is abit like throwing chuckys at someone. It may hurt, but it won't kill ya.

[Strings]

Vee shall see. :twisted:

[Phizz]

Don't worry Sideshow I got it. I'm with Yega to win too. :-P

[Strings]

You guys are really underestimating the Mac10. Five-Seven is a damn BB gun in comparison!

[Phizz]

These guys are pros. They only need a five-seven to head shot you.

[Strings]

He has to get quite a few in a row mind.. and Im assuming we are going to be "duelling" from a distance. If Yega can get me from a distance quick with a lot of consectuitititive head shots.. I will buy him a hat called Tom TOm.

[Sideshow]

I'm looking forward to this.
For the 1v1 duel, might I suggest the non-CT spawn bombsite on de-cbble?
Then we can move on to the team v team on de_dust

As an aside, talked to Mogwai on Monday, and he says he'd favour the mac 10 over the five-seven.

[Phizz]

Be afraid. And by that hat! You'll need it for the LAN. ;-)

[Sideshow]

actually, scratch the cbble part. It'd just be annoying to set up after every death. Lets just all spectate them as they go at it on de_dust.

[YegaDoyai]

you looking forward to this then strings? It'll be great no matter what the outcome. If you kill me I guess I'll get you a funnel.

[Phizz]

Get a spangly cowboy hat. Then at least he'll look funny if he does win Strings. :-D