Next LAN?

[YegaDoyai]

Any ideas when the next meet will take place?

[DAve]

Personally, I'm aiming for one more before the university term starts up again.

Ideally, I would like a lan in the first fortnight after term goes back, and one mid-way in between.
Freshers week is the 13th - 17th, week 0 is the 19th and week 1 is the 26th. THe weekend of the 1st week is the 1st or 2nd of October - so I think this would be a good date for the first "official" guns LAN of 2005/06.

Midway between then and us is around the 1st week of september. I'll enquire when the SRC have the hall free.

[YegaDoyai]

*dance*

Yeah!

Gonna show off my shiny new case!

AND bring the Laser smackdown to ya! :twisted:

(well not really cause I still can't get used to the speed but whatever :oops: )

[Bluepixie]

Personally, I'm aiming for one more before the university term starts up again.

Ideally, I would like a lan in the first fortnight after term goes back, and one mid-way in between.
Freshers week is the 13th - 17th, week 0 is the 19th and week 1 is the 26th. THe weekend of the 1st week is the 1st or 2nd of October - so I think this would be a good date for the first "official" guns LAN of 2005/06.

Midway between then and us is around the 1st week of september. I'll enquire when the SRC have the hall free.

Those dates sound good to me! Hopefully my machine will be up and running then.....

Whoever put that curse on me, can you PLEASE PLEASE LIFT IT NOW!
It's not funny anymore, and I'm just getting upset.... :cry:

[Sideshow]

I'm not really up on the whole running-a-club-for-students thing, so I don't know how ridiculous this is:
Is there any way we could schedule a lan for the freshers fair weekend? Somewhere nearby to where the stall would be; potential members could be ushered along to pre-setup PC's, and get to play first hand.
Let me give you a head start on why this is a crap idea:
1) People likely to be interested will have their own pc, and won't need the intro.
2) Current GUNS members would have to be willing to let freshers use their PC's (or spare PC's)
3) Logistics

so...

[DAve]

Is there any way we could schedule a lan for the freshers fair weekend?
Freshers fair weekend is going to be a bit mental. I didn't want to schedule a lan in the first few weeks to let the freshers get adjusted to boozing and such like before coming and gaming.

Also, there are practicalities (you've said some of them there) along with the uni will be packed out, so perhaps getting a room will be more difficult, and more students randomly wandering about the place half-cut. I'm not sure that lan-gaming would be entirely safe there.

You are right though, most of the freshers will have left their computers at home for the first few weeks / months so we might have to lure them in at a later date.

[DAve]

2) Current GUNS members would have to be willing to let freshers use their PC's (or spare PC's)
I really wouldn't want anyone mucking about with my PC. I'm really anal about this sort of thing though.

There is a gaming machine we have, it's only a celeron 433, but I've managed to wangle a graphics card for it (yet to install) and so we will have to see how much that increaces the playability of CS on it.

[YegaDoyai]

I can donate my 'project' pc if you like. (just for freshers week you understand, I have grand plans and crazy watercooled systems to build for it)

Duron 1200
512 MB ram
Radeon 9200

Not sure what state it would be in by the time someone gets to play on it but it kinda worked most of the time I had it, eh Pixie?

[YcMing]

hey hey everyone, i won't be backl till 27-sept, hopefully one of the date would suit me :).

have fun everyone ^^

[Phizz]

I'll be there but it's just my good old normal comp. Made absolutely no cash over the hols thanks to resits and rent. Oh yeah. Henry, any chance you could get me a job at Pizza Hut or put a good word in for me. Gonna look into taking my CBT when I come up to Glesga.

[YegaDoyai]

Why is it that it does not yet say 7th lan announced and people start discussing what is going to be played.

HL2:CTF
Farcry - anyone? please.
Raven Shield
Ghost Recon
New world order (you know you love the minigun madness)

Grand Prix Legends or GTR (hot seat on my machine unless other folk have steeringwheels/pedals)

IL2

No more 'The Ship'

Also checking out this mod for HL2 called Hidden looks quite cool.

[Strings]

*wonders if he's allowed to post in here*

Cool, not played GR for ages.

And The Hidden mod for HL2, if its the one Im thinking of, is good fun with players you know.

[Sideshow]

The last LAN was a bit of a let down for me - it seemed a lot more fractured than previous events. Even when there was a good number of people in the room, there would be two or three different games being played, keeping numbers in ndividual games down. People would go for food at random times too.

I have a sugestion for fixing this, which follows. If anyone can think of another solution, post away; trying to impose rules on a freeform fun event like a LAN feels kinda wrong.

My suggestion:
At the start of the LAN, everyone who shows up gets to nominate one game each. You can nominate any game, regardless of whether it's been nominated already. This list of games is then sorted into a random order.
We play each game in the list for 2 hours, or for 1 game, whichever is longest (you could play many games of Quake in 2 hours, but 1 game of Starcraft might take longer). *Everyone* has to play the current game, if possible. Some people won't have the necessary specs to play some games - any stragglers can band together and play what they want, or take a break. Some games have a player cap (8 in Starcraft, for example) - extra players again can do what they want (unless there's enough of them for a second instance of the game in question). Possibly everyone should get one veto - one game they detest which they are exempt from playing. Lunch/dinner/other necessary breaks should be taken by everyone at the same time.
It seems kinda harsh forcing people to play games, but I don't see any other way to do it. Most games people play at LANs only work with 8+ players, and we barely managed that number at all during the last LAN, despite having 10 players present. At least this way everyone gets to pick a game, and be sure that they'll get to play it with a decent number of players.

Thought, suggestions, questions?

[Exuus]

Seems ok to me.

[YegaDoyai]

Yea, you're right sideshow. I was truly surprised by how little gaming we actually got done. Games like New World Order when we finally got everyone together was great so I'd be up for Round Robin the games that get nominated. However I'd suggest that we nominate the games BEFORE the event so we can get them installed/working etc. I apologise but at the last lan I was still installing and testing components but my machine is now stable. Same goes for the pixie, his machine was in a shit state of affairs and hopefully will be better next time. (Kinda put as both out of kilter).

So, suggest the games you want to play and lets get them shortlisted to the games the WILL be played and then anything else is a 'if we have time' scenario.

I think your rule should apply from 10am to 10pm and after that time it's free for all.

[Sideshow]

However I'd suggest that we nominate the games BEFORE the event so we can get them installed/working etc.

Good call. Nearer the time, DAve can set up a Game Nominate thread, where everyone can post their game of choice. Come the day, we'll store the list of games along with the person who nominated them. That way if we hit a game who's nominator is not present we can skip it.
I think we can insert breaks throughout the games - you won't need one after 2hrs, but after 4 you probably will. People can use these breaks to install upcoming games.

If people turn up late, who have not nominated yet, should their choice be appended to the end of the list, or inserted at a random point still to be reached?

/me goes off to write some python for handling game lists...

[Strings]

People that come late should be able to nominate/vote for games that have been chosen beforehand.

And if you guys really fish them in at Freshers Fair (must have missed you guys last year) then it could make things smoother.

Was at a joint clan LAN in England and about 15 people we werent expecting turned up with PCs. At first we were worried, due to previous planning issues etc. But in the end when games like 5v5 CSS were being played.. everyone else just played DM games or 2v2 Strategy. More players means less people feeling left out.

[Sideshow]

People that come late should be able to nominate/vote for games that have been chosen beforehand.

Yeah, what I mean is, should their nomination go on the list at the end, thus being played last, or should it be added somewhere random, between the next game to be played and the end?

[YegaDoyai]

Let's face it, once you allocate several 2 hour slots plus a 4-6 hour slot for stratagy games there are only so many games the CAN be nominated. If you're late, phone your vote in.

[Strings]

If there is enough players 15+.. then at the end would do wouldn't it? As long as its getting played :D

But if there was only 10 people at the LAN, adding in new games during the actual event would be a bit hectic.


Edit: Agreed with Yega's above post :)

[DAve]

Why is it that it does not yet say 7th lan announced and people start discussing what is going to be played.
Cos I've not actually booked it yet. I'll go in on Thursday and book a room with the SRC.

[DAve]

The last LAN was a bit of a let down for me - it seemed a lot more fractured than previous events. Even when there was a good number of people in the room, there would be two or three different games being played, keeping numbers in individual games down.
I'm sure that this is partly due to the scream of CS:1.6 every damn time a new game is announced :|

Seriously though, it does need to be better organised. The down side to this is if people can't play the game that is played, then they are excluded and must either sit on the sidelines or play something else.

And what will you do when we're playing CS:S, sideshow? That is really the crucial question here, if we go with the hard line then some people will be excluded, but most will (hopefully) have a better LAN.
At the start of the LAN, everyone who shows up gets to nominate one game each. You can nominate any game, regardless of whether it's been nominated already. This list of games is then sorted into a random order.
That was my idea, you cockbite.

I suggested that at the last LAN, and for whatever reason (I've forgotten) we didn't do it.

[Sideshow]

I'm sure that this is partly due to the scream of CS:1.6 every damn time a new game is announced

No, the final straw was what followed - half an hour of arguing what to play, between CS, Vietcong, and Enemy Territory, Vietcong being chosen, everyone installing Vietcong, half the people deciding that was a bad idea and then switching to ET. (Invoking more installing).
But it wasn't really even a final straw - this was just an emphasised instance of the whole event.

Seriously though, it does need to be better organised. The down side to this is if people can't play the game that is played, then they are excluded and must either sit on the sidelines or play something else.

And what will you do when we're playing CS:S, sideshow? That is really the crucial question here, if we go with the hard line then some people will be excluded, but most will (hopefully) have a better LAN.

I'll be playing CS:S, obviously. When you're playing BF2 though, I'll be sitting out. I covered this in my original post, and yes, some people are going to miss out on some games, for the good of the whole. I'll be happy to sit out on BF2 if it means people are going to actually play what I want at other times. Looked at the other way round, if you disallow advanced games because some folks can't run them then you are penalising the people who *can* play. Gotta be fair.

That was my idea, you cockbite.

I suggested that at the last LAN, and for whatever reason (I've forgotten) we didn't do it.

Not within my hearing you didn't, or I'd have agreed with you. The above plan was formulated while talking with Afterburn after the last LAN.

Anyway, I'm unsure - are you for this format?

[YegaDoyai]

Well, I'm not going to be left out by games I _can't_ play just games I won;t play (see all stratagy games). So I come to ALL lans in the knowledge that there will come a time that I will be left to my own devices and have to make do, I think everyone else feels the same way so excluding some folk 'for the greater good' will be accepted. Just so long as you're not left playing 4 games you don't really want to play in a row only to have your nominated game canned in favour of 'just another round of halo'.

[Strings]

Im with Yega with the fact I kinda suck at Strategy games. So on a small scale example, while the rest are strategying it, Yega could kill me in Unreal.

LANs have always been great fun for me due to the fact that there was a hard-lined game plan. This does get tricky when there is few players however... Not much point in arguing when you dont know how many are coming to the LAN.

[Sideshow]

Im with Yega with the fact I kinda suck at Strategy games. So on a small scale example, while the rest are strategying it, Yega could kill me in Unreal.

Well, the point of this format is that if a strategy game comes up you would be obliged to play, just as when an FPS comes up all the strategy gamers will be obliged to play.

[DAve]

That was my idea, you cockbite.
I suggested that at the last LAN, and for whatever reason (I've forgotten) we didn't do it.
Not within my hearing you didn't, or I'd have agreed with you. The above plan was formulated while talking with Afterburn after the last LAN.
Anyway, I'm unsure - are you for this format?
I'm sure I said this to Aaron, my memory is getting worse as old age creeps in.

I was thinking about this sort of thing for a long while. While I want the club to be inclusive of all abilities and open to all, I think we do need some sort of minimum spec of machine we let in to the lan or at the very least the ability to play a short list of pre-defined games at a reasonanble pace.

I remember weeble coming round to a lan at my flat in Vinicombe st around 1999 with a black IBM PC looking a little like this http://www.kodak.com/US/images/en/health/scientific/products/accessories/accessPC.jpg and thoroughly whuppin our asses dispite playing CS in a 320*200 postage stamp in the middle of the screen. I've still got huge amounts of respect for weeble because of that :)

Anyway, the point is, I think it would be valid to say to new members that they must have a PC that can run the games we play or they're can't come to the LAN. Shinty players have to have their own sticks, so the analogy is there. We just have to agree on a set of games we will play (the hard part).

One alternative is we post the games we are playing online beforehand for all or part of the LAN. That way, everyone knows what is expected of them, and can decide on the games beforehand, leaving a lot more time for actual gaming isntead of bickering.

I agree with you though, the situation in the last lan was abysmal and shouldn't happen again.

[Phizz]

I'm with all you guys on this. V good idea sideshow. Just make sure everyone doesn't pick HL2 please. Maybe at the Chrimbo LAN cos I might just be able to run it by then. :-)

[Strings]

Sounds like a fine idea. Id happily play Strategy when it was time too. Just scared of being shouted at when I drive 200 military things into a volcano or something :?

As much as I love CS:S and BF2 etc... I play them enough online a it is, with a LAN its all about the people enjoying games with eachother.

[Sideshow]

I think Phizz has hit the technology cut off - HL2, or more accurately, Source. I think it would be optimistic to set the required specs at being able to run Source or higher. I'd set them just below Source level. So, basically, PC's circa January 2004 (I think?). I'd rank Far Cry at the same level as Source. Any prior game should be playable. Battlefield 2, not so much :)

[YegaDoyai]

'k so what. We can play source but no FEAR multiplayer demo? Well ok then.

On a side note I'm going to team up with strings when it comes to stratagy games that way we can drive 400 tank units into a volcano!! Or something.

But seriously you don't expect me to play a stratagy game do you? It'd take 20 min to finish me off and I'd be pissed off while playing so I'm better off playing games I 'don't mind' rather than games 'I'd rather shove my computer up my arse than play' (I was the one with the full tower at the last meet btw). Same goes for 'the Ship'. Otherwise I'll have you all playing Grand Prix Legends in a full race weekend with two 2 hour practices and one 2 hour race and see how much you like that!! Or maybe a full 24hr Spa race in GTR!!

Sorry for the hostility but it's needed to make my point.

[Sideshow]

Hence the line about possibly allowing one veto each.

[Strings]

Aw banding together could have been amusing. :(

[YegaDoyai]

only one veto? I don't want to stop you playing, I just will not play. Besides what if you wanted to play starcraft AND generals. then I'd be screwed.

[Sideshow]

The veto just lets *you* off the hook for that game - it still get s played by everyone else. Starcraft is your friend - 8 player max means you will likely be able to sit it out without the veto. Warhammer 40k is more likely than Generals. Everyone only gets to pick one game - I doubt Generals is anyones favourite game.

[YegaDoyai]

40k? Shall I bring my models? Seriously, I still have them, and Space Hulk

[Sideshow]

*groan* don't say that. Mogwai just trying to finnagle Afterburn into playing tabletop again, last weekend. He seemed to be managing it too... 'course, that was before he ripped him for £20 at poker.

:D

[YegaDoyai]

Fortunately I live to far away to be arsed carting more than I have to to a LAN meet so rest easy. If I'm going to have to play strats you reckon it's just starcraft and 40k? If so I'll look into them to remember what units do etc and try and be a bit more sporting. Just this once mind.

[Sideshow]

Well, they were the only two that got played at the last LAN, and the one before that. I only know of one person who likes Generals, I I'd put money on him picking CS:S. I suppose WC3 is possible, but hearing Weeble's little brother whine when he loses at Starcraft is more fun than playing WC3 would be

[Bluepixie]

Hey guys! I'm back!

It looks as though we have gotten ourselves into a right pickle wouldn't you say? Lots of great ideas going about but still no solid plan. We all wanna play games, with nice people. And we have an abundance of both.

So that's good.

Now. As far as the games go, I have this to say. Some people are devoted to a certain genre i.e. 1st Person, Strategy, Adventure, RPG, beat 'em-ups, racing etc. And I can understand that, everybody is different. I have played pretty much every type of game that exists today, apart from that weird looking "sex" game 3feel. I think that it is only fair as we have had games of Halo, Vietcong, The Ship (among others) which some people were not that keen on playing. I am willing to play Starcraft and 40k mainly because of this fact.

So, we make a list of games before the LAN. Each submitting one vote? Then we make a sort of definite list of games to be played. After everything is played, we then make a new list? Sounds good to me.

And I totally agree with Sideshow about breaks and dinnertimes. We should have at least some structure. It was a real mess last time, and I left the LAN feeling oddly unsatisfied. Mind you the games of Jedi Academy were good…..and New World Order. And Halo for that matter.

WE NEED A BIG GAME OF ET!!! And BF2

*cough*

Sorry had to let that out.

Can we not submit more than one vote? Make a proper poll? Then make a list? Or do you think the 1 vote system will be better?

[Sideshow]

Well, it's not exactly a vote. No game wins. One pick each means unless we get way more players thatn we think we will, every game picked will get played. If we manage to play thorugh them all we can either just rerandomise the list, or just play whatever, go back to the chaos.

[DAve]

Hey guys! I'm back!
Good to have you back :)

I think most of the comments have come in the form of "organise it better". Yeah, fair point. I'll do my best.

A structure to the LAN I think would benefit all. Free-form LAN-ing worked OK for the first few times, but as it gets popular and more people come, it will be a huge plus to get a working timetable in place for the lan. Good idea about the dinner-times and break times.

One thing no-one has suggested so far: if we get ~20 people to the lan, then there is no reason why we can't have 2 games running in parallel.

I like the idea of planning at least some of the games beforehand. That way you all get to decide what you are playing, and you're not dissapointed if you expect to play vietcong (for example) and don't get to.

[Bluepixie]

It's good to be back! :)

It's not that you haven't organised the LAN well, it's just that the people going there don't always have the same ideas. And the last LAN was in the John McIntyre, which didn't help much. It was WAY too big, and we were seperated into two groups. Plus is was bloody cold. :shock:

Could we have another pub trip to get a solid plan down?

[Sideshow]

Yeah, cos the last pub trip resulted in a lot of planning... hold on... alcohol in pub... yeah! Lets have another pub trip! Tomorrow?

[--Mogwai--]

I only know of one person who likes Generals, I I'd put money on him picking CS:S.

we'll see about that... i dooo love a bit of zero hour, but also, i assume someone eeeelse will pick CS:S... and someone else might maybe pick CS 1.6 cos they cant run source... so if i pick 1.5.... :shock: that would be a solid 6 hours of pure gaming bliss...

as for choosing games, i personally am up for anything, and will happily take a beating at a new game - as long as its explained to me WHY i'm taking a beating. Or in the case of Jedi Academy at the last LAN, why i'm being kicked from the server for winning when i dont know how to play :roll: lame. (owned, btw)

a system for voting/vetoing/rostering games is all well and good, just so long as there is some sort of balance in place where people who have never played before have a chance of knowing what to do. i.e starcraft, iain and weeble should NEVER be on the same team / those of us who suck terribly should be evenly distributed on either side. having no clue what youre meant to be doing is never fun, no matter how gracious in defeat someone may be, and i think some sort of (very) brief tutorial for each game would make the whole process a lot smoother and more enjoyable for all in one game or another. or if the list of games to be played was posted here, perhaps a "intro to starcraft/cs/the ship/GTR" thread?

[DAve]

It is official: the pub trips are now a weekly event.

Wednesday, Jim's bar / Games room from about 8pm.

See you all there.

[Sideshow]

we'll see about that... i dooo love a bit of zero hour, but also, i assume someone eeeelse will pick CS:S... and someone else might maybe pick CS 1.6 cos they cant run source... so if i pick 1.5.... Shocked that would be a solid 6 hours of pure gaming bliss...

I've still got CS 1.0 installed from when we were at Pit's... Mwahahahaha

nd i think some sort of (very) brief tutorial for each game would make the whole process a lot smoother and more enjoyable for all in one game or another

Alas, while there are copious strategy guides available online, the only way to get better at Starcraft is to play it.

[Sideshow]

It is official: the pub trips are now a weekly event.

Wednesday, Jim's bar / Games room from about 8pm.

See you all there.

Solid. Alas, Paul (my old flatmate) is coming back up tonight, so I don't know if I can make it. I'll try to drag him along.

[Exuus]

I've got an exam in the morning, sorry. :oops:

[YegaDoyai]

My guide for racing and flight sims. (they are teh same actually, just one has more degrees of freedom)

1: Buy joystick
2: see above

[Strings]

Cant come tonight as am unavoidably detained. If its cool for me to come at all, (as I aint really a member yet) I can come next week.

Perhaps we could put little basic guides on the Articles section of the website? Youd be surprised how much it helps. Even simple things like an overview of jumping on UT:2004 could help someone.

Edit: Perhaps even more relevant, how to trim the CS:S cfg so you get more FPS than you would do normally.

[Sideshow]

Perhaps we could put little basic guides on the Articles section of the website? Youd be surprised how much it helps. Even simple things like an overview of jumping on UT:2004 could help someone.

Edit: Perhaps even more relevant, how to trim the CS:S cfg so you get more FPS than you would do normally.

Well, luckily this forum has an Articles (http://guns.joanddave.co.uk/forum/cms_articles.php?cid=1) section; any member can write articles.
So if you want to write a brief UT jumping tutorial, or a CS:S config tutorial, then go ahead!

N.B. If anyone writes an article, remember and post a link to it in the Announce (http://guns.joanddave.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51) thread.

[YegaDoyai]

ok, i'll write an article for flight and racing sims this week, why do I need more than 70fps in CS:S anyway?

[Sideshow]

why do I need more than 70fps in CS:S anyway?

...goes to find a shovel

[YegaDoyai]

I'f I could I'd put my pute into a grid style network and share the excess FPS but I can't, I'm stuck with them. Just wait till you hear what Strings gets when his 7800 machine is working again. He'll be pushing about 120 with everything on max I'd have thought.

[Sideshow]

...goes to find a shovel and a mallet

[Strings]

When it was working I pushing over 200 FPS constant. 150 when there was firefights in Aztec/Inferno.

Going to try it with my settings all on medium. Perhaps it will go higher?

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

i might even turn up this time, for a change.

[Bluepixie]

Pub eh? tonight? Hmmmmm, I'm still kinda working on my machine right now so I may come along for a bit. Shall see. And I've got a cold, so no drinking for me. :(

[YegaDoyai]

pish, 200 eh? That must be sweet.

<dreamy stare out window>
<drool>

[Phizz]

I'm on circa 02 but upgraded since then. that's the only reason I'm able to cope so far. I can run Dawn Of War at fairly good spec and UT2004 so the just below Source is fine by me. Depending on my monetary situation come the end of the first term I may get a new Gfx card to compete at least with Source but until Chrimbo I'm stuck with this hunk of junk. :-D

[Strings]

7800 GTs are apparently performing wonderfully. But perhaps the new ATI card will be out by then?

[YegaDoyai]

hmmm, new ATI card may just never appear.

[DAve]

Steam are handing out free vouchers for Half-life 3 with the new ATI card. I think they'll be along at pretty much the same time.

[Exuus]

It's quite bad when you can't tell if this is a joke or not. :?

[Strings]

Thats going to keep me amused for the remaining 3 hours of work heh.

And aye.. is it a joke?

[DAve]

No, that's right, it wasn't Half-life 3, it was Team Fortress 2 and Duke Nukem Forever in a double-pack.

[/deadpan]

[YegaDoyai]

yeah _and_ they were going to put Prey in as a bundle.... oh no wait. They really ARE doing Prey now. Silly me.

</mock 3drealms>

-Edit-

Why is there STILL no announcement to the next LAN??!?

[DAve]

Why is there STILL no announcement to the next LAN??!?
Mutter, mutter... going as fast as I can...

Some people have actual day-jobs to keep up too :)

[YegaDoyai]

What, you mean like me? I have finished with the student life and have been working full time for the past two years. Unlike you, you PhD tax dodger. :D

[Strings]

And on a sudden change of topic.

F.E.A.R is apparently going to be designed to encorporate Dual Cores.

And then I further read... (although this might be bullshit) that Nvidia/ATI may make firmware which utilises the Dual Core also. Which would be about a 10-30% increase. :P

However this is all pointless, without a fecking PSU

[DAve]

Unlike you, you PhD tax dodger. :D
You pay my wages you do. And I get it all nice and tax free.

I don't think there's an emoticon for that.

The down side is the pay is a bit shit, especially for the hours and experience needed.

[YegaDoyai]

and happy to pay them, so long as at least some of the time is wasted doing this.
:)

[Bluepixie]

And on a sudden change of topic.

F.E.A.R is apparently going to be designed to encorporate Dual Cores.

And then I further read... (although this might be bullshit) that Nvidia/ATI may make firmware which utilises the Dual Core also. Which would be about a 10-30% increase. :P

However this is all pointless, without a fecking PSU

Crazy. Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade AGAIN next year. Ah well. What can you do.

You not got a new PSU yet?!? :shock: That poor 7800 just sitting there doing nothing........

[YcMing]

Yeah, that's definilty a good idea, as for me a die-hard Starcraft fan, i don't mind play Cs:1.6, UT orginial, or ET. As for any other game, i don't know if my com can handle it :O.

But hopefully next time we will have a good game list :).

[Strings]

And on a sudden change of topic.

F.E.A.R is apparently going to be designed to encorporate Dual Cores.

And then I further read... (although this might be bullshit) that Nvidia/ATI may make firmware which utilises the Dual Core also. Which would be about a 10-30% increase. :P

However this is all pointless, without a fecking PSU

Crazy. Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade AGAIN next year. Ah well. What can you do.

You not got a new PSU yet?!? :shock: That poor 7800 just sitting there doing nothing........

RMAed it on Thursday, by next week I should be smiling again.

[bluntpencil2001]

Would it be possible for myself to beg a lift off anybody here? :oops:

[Strings]

Certainly matey. Where do you reside?

[bluntpencil2001]

Winton Drive halls.

Thankyouverymucho! It appears that I now owe you a beer!

[Strings]

Well if your going to the pub meet tonight... ;)

Your going to have to explain where the smeg that is mind.

[bluntpencil2001]

Tonight? I thought they were on Wednesdays?

Tonight's probably a no-can-do. I already missed an enrolment class today due to a flu-like illness. If I go to Jim's I'll end up a wreck and miss another tomorrow due to alcohol-related illness.

Um... Winton Drive is near the Queen Margaret Halls... round Kirklee way.

[bluntpencil2001]

Shit! Today IS Wednesday!

[Sideshow]

Yay! Someone else doesn't know when it's wednesday! It's not just me!

[bluntpencil2001]

I blame Jaegermeister.

[Phizz]

What happened to IO dave? You bugging out? Anyway. I'll need to ascab a lift to the next LAN if I am going to make it because I have been told that I am no longer a student either and am currently trying to get a job to make sure that I can stay in Glasgow. On the plus side if I get a full time job even with crap pay I'll have more money than I would as a student! Roll on the new gfx card to pee on them all!

[DAve]

Io was in the Boyd Orr yesterday. We went upstairs to the committee room 1 after the pub was packed.

Sorry to hear about you not being a student next year, but as you say, GFX cards are hard to buy on student loans.

[Strings]

Bleh no wonder I couldnt find you guys

Edit: As my sig says, i thought I just couldnt find you. This was at 9:15 at the QM bah.

[Sideshow]

Didn't I say exactly this would happen? Didn't I?

[Strings]

If your criticising me... fine. :) But I did try :cry:

[Phizz]

I can still come to the next LAN hopefully though. I've got 3 interviews for jobs and at least one will take me on hopefully.

[bluntpencil2001]

Well if your going to the pub meet tonight... ;)

Your going to have to explain where the smeg that is mind.

Meeting you guys at Jim's may be difficult (especially you, Strings, in order to tell you where I residee) this coming Wednesday as about 90 minutess ago I was thrown out of Jim's Bar for being 17 and very drunk. Possible bannage may occur, although a slap on the wrists seems more likely. Embarassing either way. :oops:

[Exuus]

n00b. You suck at drinking.


:P

[bluntpencil2001]

n00b. You suck at drinking.


:P
LOL, nah, I've been drunk sine I got here. I just had to stagger in front of security, who had realised I was 17 earlier...

[YegaDoyai]

still a n00b mistake. :)

[bluntpencil2001]

LOL, I suppose when the bouncers already recognised me from several nights previous due to my paraletic state (which was good, because they let me in without a pass one night because they remembered me...), they aren't going to forget that my ID says '17' after checking it...

...ah well, at least it doesn't affect my courses.

[Exuus]

LOL, nah, I've been drunk sine I got here. I just had to stagger in front of security, who had realised I was 17 earlier...
Much to learn, you still have.

[bluntpencil2001]

Much to learn, you still have.
At least I didn't buy the deathsticks. :)

[DAve]

They see literally thousands of people a night, the chances of them recognising you are small, especially if you wear different clothing.

(note: being a spy in Team Fortress did teach me something :)

I was 17 when I came to uni, and got ID'd the first day. I gave the bouncer my ID, he looked at it and let me in (this was curlers though, and I am 6'3'' tall, so I may have had an unfair advantage)

rules for drinking: go to the student unions lots
get in early before the bouncers arive

Do the bouncers let you in if you're relatively sober and under age (and promise not to drink)?

[YegaDoyai]

actually I found the best way into a pub when there are bouncers is to go with a group of girls. As clubs/pubs are always looking to have a decent male/female mix (and there are always more blokes) they will let in large groups of girls even when no one else can get in. Just find a crowd going in and befriend them quickly and you'll get in no probs. You may need to befriend them to the extent that they will actally protest for you to the bouncer.

[Strings]

Not been thrown out yet.. but I always get asked "How are you feeling sir?" before I go into a damn bar/club. Tis almost insulting.. must need my hair cut.

[bluntpencil2001]

Not been thrown out yet.. but I always get asked "How are you feeling sir?" before I go into a damn bar/club. Tis almost insulting.. must need my hair cut.

Pfft! Haircuts are for losers!

[Exuus]

Never had any problems myself, but people to tend to think I'm older.

[Bluepixie]

Interesting veer off topic. Never been thrown out myself. Have had plenty of interesting situations with the QM security though. Nearly got chucked out once at Rev for "beating the shit" out of everyone. wasn't really hitting everyone, but myself and Campbell were having a damn good go at each other, in good spirits of course. So, we kinda ended up charging into people.

Wasn't a very happy bunny at the time. :wink:

[Phizz]

Was chucked out of the Shack once. Was bored and decided to tip my drink onto a bald guys head from the balcony. Oh drink. You bring us to ectasy and then dash us with stupidity. lol

[bluntpencil2001]

Never had any problems myself, but people to tend to think I'm older.

They thought I was 18 for quite some time. Then they just had to check everybody's ID at the door.

Only bother I've had with security is being told to sit down after staggering into things... generally just laugh at me for it, no trouble caused.

Anyway, they're going to send me a letter soon regarding my appearance before a Disciplinary Committee type thing...

Anyway, if anybody could help explain to Strings where Winton Drive is, I would be much obliged. And Strings, it looks like I may be unable to buy you that beer now. Curses.

[Phizz]

That must be a uni record! In trouble before full matriculation! Score!

[bluntpencil2001]

Nah, I'm already matriculated, and I'm only in trouble with the QMU, not the Uni itself. They assured me there would be no trouble with my courses and stuff, so all is cool.