Blood Bowl Division 2 Season 1 [Archive]

Sideshow

22nd February 2009, 19:22

Pairings:

Round 2
420 Green Street v fleet foxes

Round 3
Human Factor v RatFormers
420 Green Street v Beard City Rollers
Scary Little Girls v fleet foxes

Round 4
Human Factor v fleet foxes
A Moose Once Bit My Sister v 420 Green Street
Scary Little Girls v Beard City Rollers

Round 5
Scary Little Girls v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
fleet foxes v Beard City Rollers
RatFormers v 420 Green Street

Round 6
Human Factor v Beard City Rollers
RatFormers v Scary Little Girls
fleet foxes v A Moose Once Bit My Sister

Round 7
Human Factor v 420 Green Street
fleet foxes v RatFormers
Beard City Rollers v A Moose Once Bit My Sister

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Welcome to Division 2! This follows the format of Division 1 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2219) in every way except that all teams will play each opponent only once. This thread for an overview of the season, each week will get it's own thread to post results / links to replays etc in.

Week 3 has begun, game deadline is Sunday March 15th, 2pm - 7pm (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34794#post34794)

# | Team | Coach | G W D L TD | P
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1 | A Moose Once Bit My Sister (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=533788) | twonky | 4 4 0 0 7 | 12
2 | RatFormers (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=535332) | TK-Maximus | 4 4 0 0 5 | 12
3 | Beard City Rollers (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=536871) | Mogwai | 4 3 0 1 4 | 9
4 | Human Factor (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=534114) | Baron Greenback | 4 2 1 1 -1 | 7
5 | Scary Little Girls (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=539340) | Sideshow | 4 2 0 2 0 | 6
6 | fleet foxes (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=537712) | gor | 4 1 1 2 -3 | 4
7 | 420 Green Street (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=537498) | GingerPrinz | 4 1 0 3 -3 | 3

Matches
Week 1 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34415)
Week 2 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2321)
Week 3 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34794#post34794)

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GingerPrinz

22nd February 2009, 19:44

Very pro Iain. I'm loving the look of the table, especially because it might be the only time I'm on top of it :)

TK-Maximus

23rd February 2009, 22:04

Ratfomers win 2-1, though will be down Omega Supreme for the next match. :(

twonky

24th February 2009, 13:49

The links to the teams seem a bit messed up Gravebound goes to fleet foxes fleet foxes goes to eihorts cohorts they go to Beard city rollers who go to barons beasts

Sideshow

24th February 2009, 15:31

Will fix tonight

twonky

3rd March 2009, 23:18

A Moose Once Bit My Sister 3-0 We Are Leaving

I Like all Block it rocks and Frenzys funny

Sideshow

3rd March 2009, 23:24

For fuck sake post it in the right thread

twonky

3rd March 2009, 23:36

A sorry saw all the other posts thought I was in the right place

Sideshow

4th March 2009, 10:54

Since Smee has dropped out, and since Greenback gave up his first pick race to allow said Smee to play them (Humans), and Greenback hasn't played a game yet, I'm letting him switch teams.

GingerPrinz

4th March 2009, 11:26

Gz Charles! :D

Baron_Greenback

4th March 2009, 11:38

Nice -- Well, Iain, Dave and Larry should remember some of these guys.

Human Factor (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=534114)

Sideshow

4th March 2009, 11:47

I didn't rage until #10

GingerPrinz

4th March 2009, 12:47

Kataga "Golden Bow" Maseru - WAAAAAAAAANK, but I think larry hates him the most

Naka "The Hantei" Iishin - Spawned the greatest tales of the Factor, and is the thing we give Mandeep the most shit about to this day

Daidoji "Earth 5" Tamanaki - Hate him because he might have taught Larry how OP Daidoji are...

Rodriguez "Porte Mage" Al'Zar - Best. Romance Novel. Ever.

Baron_Greenback

4th March 2009, 13:01

I didn't rage until #10

Ah Hida "The Ninja" Hosigawa, I remember still the time he spent in prison with deadly poison dripping down his sides trying desperately not to scratch.

GingerPrinz

18th March 2009, 20:40

3 days over deadline Jon and Aaron!! Let's get this game on!

twonky

20th March 2009, 02:43

Ian could you post the next weeks matches and let those that can play, play

Sideshow

20th March 2009, 02:58

Yeah, OK. Hopefully the last game will get played tomorrow...

fleet foxes v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
Human Factor v 420 Green Street
Eihorts Cohorts v Beard City Rollers
Scary Little Girls v We are Leaving
[BYE] v RatFormers

So me and Mogwai are gonna have to wait... the rest of you can get on with it.

twonky

22nd March 2009, 20:50

Gor do you fancy playing our div 2 game. My MSN doesnt seem to work so Ill try to organise this through here

twonky

22nd March 2009, 22:38

Since theres not a week 4 thread im going to post here

fleet foxes 0 v 1 A Moose Once Bit My Sister.

Gor Conceded on turn 7 just as I was about to score.

I guess he was pissed off when I pushed his blitzer into the crowd and was killed and I was hitting his guys who were standing up. I didnt foul and if he had left his players on the ground They would of been fine. I dont think I was playing particularly visously. Thats two games now I have had conceded against me which is getting annoying.

I really dont see why Gor did it its not going to help him get the cash to buy a replacement Blitzer. It denied me the chance to score a touchdown with my catcher which would of taken him to 6 spp. Ok so I got a Ogre and a Thrower from the money but I would still of preffered to play the full game.

gor

22nd March 2009, 23:11

5 players left after 6 turns... It was a wise move. Plus I had a dow match starting.

Your team has enough skills anyway, you need numbers, not skills.

--Mogwai--

23rd March 2009, 02:11

...I dont think I was playing particularly visously. Thats two games now I have had conceded against me which is getting annoying...

Concessions are better than the spp from playing the game out perhaps... given than div1 is over pretty much, and div2 only serves to develop a team, people wanting to protect the teams makes sense. ( or people just cant be bothered playing a meaningless game with 1/2 a team, also makes sense... div2 has kind of fallen apart!)

twonky

23rd March 2009, 11:37

Nooo dont fall apart Im winning this one dont take this away from me :D

GingerPrinz

23rd March 2009, 12:55

Well I know what Larry means - 2 ppl dropped, 2 more not playing, 2 concessions in the first 25 games, it's a bit of a farce. I for one though am sick of the ever more recurring trend to concede against a bash opponent when your team suffers 1 or 2 major casualties. Bash opponents rely in general on causing a numbers deficit in their favour, so there are less fast, agile players to hamper them. Yes, AV7-8 guys, this means you will incur injuries. Yes, some of the injuries may be severe, but conceding to "save" your team, or to deny the other player SPP, is in direct conflict with Fumbbl's rules on the subject:

For their tournaments: Concessions are not allowed in R tournaments. Conceeding will attract a one month ban, or greater, from all R tournaments.

General play: * Concessions are to be made only when there is merit for them.
* In this context, merit means that the conceding team needs a reasonable in-game reason for conceding. The team taking excessive casualties is one acceptable reason to concede. Other reasons include having a very distinct lack of players left to play with, or being clearly outplayed in terms of touchdowns.
* Conceding when none of the above circumstances are fulfilled will require admin approval.
* If you are unsure if your particular game qualifies for a concession, please consult the FUMBBL administration for a ruling.
* A match where the administration rules that a concession is acceptable, even though it does not fulfil the policy stated here will have its match report page marked to reflect this.

To me, excessive casualties is something like 3 or more players who are dead or will be forced to retire (this is assuming a squad of 11 players - for squads with 13-14 players I would want to see 5 RIP/niggle before a concession). One guy dead does not excessive force indicate.

twonky

23rd March 2009, 13:03

If you cant take someone hurting your team then your playing the wrong game.
Though Ive been guilty of it as well in the ladder I conceded my match against the Chaos Dwarves. after they totally raped my team. It was a mistake to concede in that occasion as I needed the money to rebuild.

TK-Maximus

23rd March 2009, 14:50

Nooo dont fall apart Im winning this one dont take this away from me :D

Not by much matey...

To me, excessive casualties is something like 3 or more players who are dead or will be forced to retire (this is assuming a squad of 11 players - for squads with 13-14 players I would want to see 5 RIP/niggle before a concession). One guy dead does not excessive force indicate.

There's no difference in a game between 5 guys BH and 5 guys Dead. In fact, with 5 guys dead, you're far better playing on as you'll need the cash to replace the players. Excessive casualties is more about having enough men on the field to put up a reasonable game.

5 players left after 6 turns

Sounds valid to me.

twonky

23rd March 2009, 14:57

Most of his players we KO, 1 BH and 1 RIP

GingerPrinz

23rd March 2009, 15:14

There's no difference in a game between 5 guys BH and 5 guys Dead. In fact, with 5 guys dead, you're far better playing on as you'll need the cash to replace the players. Excessive casualties is more about having enough men on the field to put up a reasonable game.

So bashy teams either take a beating and lose, or get too many CAS and get conceded to, or tread the horrible tightrope of "oh, i've cas'ed 3 of his guys, must not block anymore because I want to actually finish my match". What if I'm 2-0 down and don't fancy my chances of bringing it back? Just concede and deny the team playing me any chance of further TDs? It's not like I have any major need of money in my orc team anyway, so if by week 9 or 10 if I'm not in a viable winning position I just concede every game I look like I'm gonna lose anyway?

Larry's team would be a reroll bloated solid team right now if people had conceded to him rather than letting him score 5 or 6 in a game, rather than the (deservedly might I add, last game excepted) behemoth that he's sporting now. I'm sure most if not all people playing this have a vague idea of player development and how important that is to a team, well if you can't develop your players properly because your only spp is coming from too much cas and double mvps, your team is just as likely to end up horribly unbalanced as it is to end up nicely rounded. So you see concessions actually can hurt developing teams as much as it seemingly helps them by giving them double cash

gor

23rd March 2009, 15:15

It was a calculated concession. I can recover from 1 RIP, but 2 RIP's and niggles at this stage would effectively finish me. And unlike some, I am not willing to play the next 4 games scraping by just to save enough money to field 11 on the 5th game. If that situation does arise, I will just retire the team. With 5 players I was unlikely to get sp's and highly likely to sustain more injuries. The way I saw it, it was either concede or retire.

In general I just don't care enough to grind out some kind of a result. I cant get enthusiastic about a largely luck based game. The luck in the first three games effectively decides where you'll finish at the end of the season. Thereafter, I just click things, have a bit of a laugh. If i get bored, or the game is turning into a farce, I'll just concede. I joined to make up the numbers, nobody said I had to care all that much.

TK-Maximus

23rd March 2009, 16:40

So bashy teams either take a beating and lose, or get too many CAS and get conceded to, or tread the horrible tightrope of "oh, i've cas'ed 3 of his guys, must not block anymore because I want to actually finish my match".

Yes. It's the no brainer team choice, that's the downside. Suck it up. I'm sorry you don't get to walk your saurus into the endzone on turns 12, 14 and 16 to get it to skillup insanely... On no wait, I'm not.

What if I'm 2-0 down and don't fancy my chances of bringing it back? Just concede and deny the team playing me any chance of further TDs? It's not like I have any major need of money in my orc team anyway, so if by week 9 or 10 if I'm not in a viable winning position I just concede every game I look like I'm gonna lose anyway?

Larry's team would be a reroll bloated solid team right now if people had conceded to him rather than letting him score 5 or 6 in a game, rather than the (deservedly might I add, last game excepted) behemoth that he's sporting now. I'm sure most if not all people playing this have a vague idea of player development and how important that is to a team, well if you can't develop your players properly because your only spp is coming from too much cas and double mvps, your team is just as likely to end up horribly unbalanced as it is to end up nicely rounded. So you see concessions actually can hurt developing teams as much as it seemingly helps them by giving them double cash

If every team that I went 2-0 up against conceeded I'd be laughing all the way to the bank.
Elves, Rats, Humans. They suffer every turn of the game on the line of scrimage. The sooner they win, the happier they are.

--Mogwai--

23rd March 2009, 16:42

Yes. It's the no brainer team choice, that's the downside. Suck it up. I'm sorry you don't get to walk your saurus into the endzone on turns 12, 14 and 16 to get it to skillup insanely... On no wait, I'm not.

aye, stop playing shitebag av9 teams!!! (Says the dwarf coach of this division.. )

GingerPrinz

23rd March 2009, 16:59

So my options are:

Bash successfully, get conceded to

or

Bash badly, lose

or

Play elves?

This is getting lame, are people losing enthusiasm or something? We've got one coach "just making up the numbers", one totally absent, one who "might" be able to play his D1 team... I really enjoy the league and stuff but if not enough folk are enjoying it maybe we should scale down next season...

--Mogwai--

23rd March 2009, 17:02

Bash successfully, get conceded to

pretty good result? :) the best, some might say.

GingerPrinz

23rd March 2009, 17:14

Yeah you're right, I'm just gonna start massively rubbing it in to whoever couldn't strap themselves in and FEEL THE G'S

twonky

23rd March 2009, 18:56

It looks like div 2 is a league too far

Baron_Greenback

24th March 2009, 13:12

All so Doom and Gloom!

How about we take a little break from div 2 (we've had the start of one already). Lets face it -- everyone here's just playing for the fun of it so if people no longer find it enjoyable then of course they should stop for a while.

I the interest of actually playing some games -- would it be a good idea to introduce a sub system so that if you end up hating your team you can sub in another (either a brand new starting team or one that is a lower TR than the one you are ditching) -- maybe 1 switch per coach just to get people playing.

In other news -- Humans 2 - Lizards 1 in div 2

GingerPrinz

24th March 2009, 13:26

Well a break could be kinda make-or-break at this stage tbh. Look at the (presumed) timelines for the next month:

Sun 28th April - Deadline for Week 14 of Div1/ Week 4 of Div 2
Sun 5th May - Deadline for Week 1 of D1 Cup/ Week 5 of Div 2
Sun 12th May - Deadline for Week 2 of D1 Cup/ Week 6 of Div 2
Sun 19th May - Deadline for Cup Final/ Final Week of Div 2

So if there is a break of any kind then teams knocked out in Round 1 of the D1 cup are already gonna be waiting 2 weeks to play again, the break would make it 3 at least. I don't know if it's an attention span problem for me, but if I was faced with no matches for a month I would almost certainly move on and find something else that interests me. This sucks because I love blood bowl, but I'm not really enjoying the current climate in terms of ppl's attitudes and obvious gaps in the rules.

These things are kinda momentum based I guess. When D1 was in it's 3rd or 4th week we couldn't get the games played fast enough. Now there's been a couple of rough patches, begrudged concessions, people dropping out or going AWOL and the momentum has been lost. It's easy enough to get going again, but people have to get into the spirit a bit more IMO.

twonky

24th March 2009, 13:59

Ive started playing Ranked to keep my addiction fed. Won my first game Undead V Nurgle (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2602839)

TK-Maximus

24th March 2009, 15:54

If Div 2 folds, I'd be dropping from Div 1 completely. I'm only still playing so that it'll still be around come promotion time.

There is some fun to be gained from running rings round the murder teams. However I've no wish to bring in a team LOWER ranked than the pro-elves, and a starting team would, I think we can all agree, just get insta-gibbed.

Sideshow

24th March 2009, 15:59

I was waiting for everyone to express their opinion before I posted.

Rules
Rules fumbbl enforces for [R] are completely irrelevant for us. For one thing they are designed to handle a completely different situation (a huge anonymous player base), but more importantly, we are playing a Blood Bowl league. We're using fumbbl and javabbowl to do it, but it's Blood Bowl we are playing; therefor it is the Blood Bowl rules we are following and only the Blood Bowl rules (specifically the latest revision of the Living Rulebook v4, as it's the newest set supported by the client).

The LRB very clearly specifies how concessions work and how the coach is penalised for doing it (and it's a pretty damn hefty penalty). We're not going to make up our own rules based on personal preference, especially in an area as contentious as this, where one player is sickened to the point of not wanting to play and the other is miffed that they didn't get to whale on a downed opponent as much as they'd like to. Let me be clear: the LRB allows a coach to concede => coaches can concede.

The only rules I'd consider adding are ones which either impact purely on the medium (the ruling previously made regarding connection issues with the javabbowl client for instance), or which attempt to bring the rules more in line with LRB v5, which is the newest version of the rules and which I would prefer to play but which the client cannot support. Consideration would be given to rules which would attempt to nerf some of the OP stuff in v4 which v5 tones down (for example, restricting the number of players in a team who can have a certain Skill or Trait (or Mutation)). Note: I'm not stating that this will happen, only that I would consider such rules, if someone has an issue about v4 balance they think could be addressed.

To sum up: there will be no rules added to govern coach conduct. Coaches are free to play their teams however they see fit, so long as it's permissible in the LRB.

GingerPrinz: having read that, please post if you still see any "obvious gaps in the rules"

Div 2 stalling
Sorry about this. I've been letting this week drag out, hoping that the last game would get played, since I figured (with Caveman's team being a bit boned) a likely win would have a good chance of bolstering Borderline's enthusiasm, and I wanted to give Caveman the time to get the game played since (like all the Div1 players) he has been very good at getting his games done. Sadly, I see that's not happening (and sorry you're so busy IRL Aaron), so I'm going to drop Caveman and Borderline from Div2. Me and Mogwai will be playing each other this week (week 4 - I'll put the proper Week 4 thread up in a minute), and there'll be new pairings up this Sunday for Week 5. I think we can deem the attempt to rope in new players a failure :(

EDIT: Note that with the 2 players dropping, the number of weeks for Div 2 shrinks, so both Divisions should be wrapping up about the same time.

GingerPrinz

24th March 2009, 16:03

Stealth posted to irrelevance lol.

That wraps up the immediate concerns I had, thanks for the response.

EDIT: Thinking about it, now that Div 2 isn't serving to attract new players, it's now more like a spawning pool or "extra life" I guess. Where players can roll round their spare team/prospective team until it's better than their team in the first at any giving swapping point. I think this will provide nice variety and balance, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out.

--Mogwai--

24th March 2009, 18:43

those people who played vs borderline or aaron before they dropped.... are they going to be at an advantage due to playing extra games over the rest of us? I cant really be bothered cdoing the (very simple) math right now... but if someone else could work it out and let me know :)

ALSO: tabletop BB can use LRB5.... i have orcs/humans/khemri teams... anyone?.... :P

GingerPrinz

24th March 2009, 18:48

They won't be at a disadvantage providing we clip the season by 1 game so that everyone has played the correct amount of games. Everyone won't necessarily play everyone, but for balance purposes it will work out.

TK-Maximus

24th March 2009, 20:12

Sideshow

24th March 2009, 21:36

I'm gonna figure it out this weekend

--Mogwai--

24th March 2009, 21:43

I doubt it'll make much difference when all is said and done, 1 game more/less isn't a big deal - I'd rather div2 was over ASAP if balancing the matches would mean it took longer

Sideshow

31st March 2009, 17:58

Division 2 is, at this point, fucked. I've been trying to think of a way to play it out, but without a retarded draw of games I can't decide on/shoehorn in the required pairings. So, what I suggest is this: using the teams we already have, we repair everyone against everyone. It won't really be a league, just a way for people to play and skill up teams they might want to switch into D1. Gah, hometime - will finish this post when I get home.

Sideshow

31st March 2009, 18:51

To continue...

I'll pair up 6 rounds of everyone v everyone (plus a round zero for people to catch up with beforehand), and then I'll post all the pairings here. You can play your games any time you want, but you must play them in order: you cannot play your Round 2 game til you play your Round 1 game. Play as fast as you like: the sooner we get done the sooner we can restart the Premiership! Also, I think it'd be a good idea to let people promote teams before we run the knockout tournament, otherwise the current D1 teams will outpace the promoted teams even more. Going away to make pairings now...

Sideshow

31st March 2009, 18:56

Pairings:

Round 0
Scary Little Girls v fleet foxes
Human Factor v Ratformers

Round 1
Human Factor v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
420 Green Street v Scary Little Girls
Beard City Rollers v RatFormers
fleet foxes v [BYE]

Round 2
Human Factor v Scary Little Girls
A Moose Once Bit My Sister v RatFormers
420 Green Street v fleet foxes
Beard City Rollers v [BYE]

Round 3
Human Factor v RatFormers
420 Green Street v Beard City Rollers
Scary Little Girls v fleet foxes
A Moose Once Bit My Sister v [BYE]

Round 4
Human Factor v fleet foxes
A Moose Once Bit My Sister v 420 Green Street
Scary Little Girls v Beard City Rollers
RatFormers v [BYE]

Round 5
Scary Little Girls v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
fleet foxes v Beard City Rollers
RatFormers v 420 Green Street
Human Factor v [BYE]

Round 6
Human Factor v Beard City Rollers
RatFormers v Scary Little Girls
fleet foxes v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
420 Green Street v [BYE]

Round 7
Human Factor v 420 Green Street
fleet foxes v RatFormers
Beard City Rollers v A Moose Once Bit My Sister
Scary Little Girls v [BYE]

--Mogwai--

31st March 2009, 19:47

so.... is div 1 season 2 having to wait for all these new games to get played???

Sideshow

31st March 2009, 22:05

Yup

--Mogwai--

31st March 2009, 22:51

seems like a waste of time... cant you just lower the deadline on these games? to like 3 days?

Sideshow

31st March 2009, 23:22

No. I can understand you wanting to play your insanely good team against a league half full of shat on shit teams, but the people who have those shat on shit teams aren't really feeling the same way, and probably won't want to play at all if they had to use them.
Which is irrelevant anyway - I want a break before season 2 starts.

--Mogwai--

31st March 2009, 23:49

well if they deadlines were shortened the d2 teams would be just as good without halting div1... a break is a good idea sure, but 6 weeks is a bit much.

TK-Maximus

31st March 2009, 23:56

I think the idea is to get them done in alot less than 6 weeks, hence the no limit on a week needing to be fully finished before you play on, or time limits.

And yeah, I certainly wasn't planning on playing in the playoffs with the pro elves.

GingerPrinz

1st April 2009, 00:05

I will happily play 2-3 games in a night, or up to 5 on a weekend day, if my opponents would like to say when they are free perhaps we can work something out

--Mogwai--

1st April 2009, 00:21

OH I missed the part where d2 teams get to play in the KO tourney... that's pretty bad. Whats the point if the winning teams aren't able to be better?..

twonky

1st April 2009, 19:27

Charles give me a shout when youve played Pit and are able to play me

Baron_Greenback

1st April 2009, 22:52

will do -- am trying to get Pit to play tonight -- he's busy -- I don't mind starting after 10 though so should be going ahead

Hope that rat ogre has a poor game

TK-Maximus

2nd April 2009, 02:10

I beat Charles 3-2.

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2614405

The Ratogre did not have a bad game. Also: 1 turners Rock.

Baron_Greenback

2nd April 2009, 10:13

Indeed they do -- indeed they do.

I screwed up -- didn't think you actually had a 1 turner as long legs don't show the + to MA. That let you get the second equaliser on turn 8.

Also -- my Ogre was particularly bone headed that game.

But apart from that I have no complaints. I didn't think that I played badly and can't really complain about luck. Nor did you get particularly fortunate this game.

Well played Pit. A deserved victory.

Baron_Greenback

2nd April 2009, 10:15

I beat Charles 3-2.

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2614405

The Ratogre did not have a bad game. Also: 1 turners Rock.

Ratogre did indeed have a good game: 4 CS

GingerPrinz

2nd April 2009, 10:16

Owwwwch. Sounds like a really good game tho!

Baron_Greenback

2nd April 2009, 10:18

Erm Iain.

Why am I playing against RatFormers 2x and against 420 Green Street 0 times?

GingerPrinz

2nd April 2009, 10:22

First game was ur catchup game. As for not playing me in the run of 6, guess it was just luck of the draw stuff.

Sideshow

2nd April 2009, 11:35

because I have failed to post round 7, obviously. Duh!

Baron_Greenback

6th April 2009, 01:37

Graeme (A Moose Once Bit My Siser) 1 - 2 Human Factor (Charlie) (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2619568)

Strange game -- all touchdowns scored were turnovers!

TK-Maximus

6th April 2009, 02:50

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2619649

I beat Larry 2-1. I was lucky to get away with my team that game, I started 2nd half with only 8 men due to alot of KO bad luck.

Only one CS for the Ratogre. Must Do Better.

twonky

6th April 2009, 11:45

Well played by Charlie. I wasnt very focused in the first half and pretty much gave away the first two touch downs by sloppy play and positioning.

I then had to start playing nasty to have a chance at scoring in the 2nd half so I took out 3 of his blitzers and was lucky with the KO rolls.

for most of the second half it was 11v9 in my favour which allowed me to overwhelm the human cage and get the ball.

Almost equalised on the final turn. I needed to use two blocks to push my catcher close enough to score with 2 GFI but on the last 3D block failed to roll a push on the blitzer and couldnt get my catcher close enough.

Apart from the result it was a good game for the Norse as they came out of it unharmed and got two new skills dodge and tackle.

Sideshow

7th April 2009, 14:28

:O (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2620963)

Baron_Greenback

7th April 2009, 14:31

Pit -- Graeme.

I want to know what happened on your game.

Looked like a complete blood bath -- kudos for actually winning the game Pit but -- a pyrrhic victory it seems.

The replay is broken.

What went down?

Sideshow

7th April 2009, 14:47

You sure the replay is broken? The log is all there... hold on and I'll have a peruse

Sideshow

7th April 2009, 14:50

Beechcomber killed Tyr with a block
Magni killed Omega Supreme with a foul
Odin killed Wheeljack with a block
Lif killed Hot Rod with a foul

EDIT: Twonky Got The Ref turn 1...
EDIT2: and the apoth failed to save Omega Supreme

Baron_Greenback

7th April 2009, 14:52

my app was broken.
playing it back now

TK-Maximus

7th April 2009, 14:57

Murder. Both Hot Rod and Omega Supreme died of Fouling (Apoth roll failed! >.<). Hot Rod was particularly frustrating, as he only stepped onto the pitch at the start of the 2nd half, only to be hit by a Rock (My FF was 4 higher...), and murdered on Graeme's 1st turn.

Still, I have a team of 12 players left, and a good FF to try and recoup my losses.

2-1 to me, obviously.

Baron_Greenback

7th April 2009, 14:58

Magni fouls Omega Supreme. (2, 4) +3
(5, 5) + 0, 6: Omega Supreme has been KILLED!!
101: status changed from 1 to 10.
The ref looks the other way!
Move ended for Magni

Waiting for opponent to decide to use apothecary.

(1) Apothecary FAILS!

Pit -- heartbreaking. Hard luck.

GingerPrinz

7th April 2009, 15:00

I for one am a little relieved that there isn't a guard/block RO and a oneturner for the time being. UL Pit, but at least you learnt your lesson with the Elves and got the FF u need to rebound.

Baron_Greenback

7th April 2009, 15:02

I'm also quite relieved as I play you after my next game. It is horrible though when one of your favourite players snuffs it.

TK-Maximus

7th April 2009, 15:07

I'm also quite relieved as I play you after my next game. It is horrible though when one of your favourite players snuffs it.

I'll live in the end. Jazz now has Agi 5 and Dauntless, so is well on his way to being broken as hell to replace them. And with a FF of 13, Metroplex will make his way onto the pitch soon enough...

Sideshow

7th April 2009, 15:20

Just so long as Rodimus never appears...

twonky

7th April 2009, 16:01

Yeah sorry about all the death. It could of been worse mind you I totally forgot I had got the ref for the first two turns unfortunatly those Gutter runners had to go. I was too tired to play that game made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Mistake 1 forgetting that the dude who got killed was actually a lineman with tackle and not just a rookie unskilled dude so I didnt apoth him.

Mistake 2 forgot to put my other tackle guy on after pit scored his first td.

Mistake 3 didnt leave a guy close enough to actually score for my first td attempt.

Mistake 4 I think made a mess out of trying to bust pits cage open in my last td attempt

twonky

7th April 2009, 17:38

Man im not looking forwards to round 7
Beard City Rollers v A Moose Once Bit My Sister

GingerPrinz

7th April 2009, 17:47

Why? Norse are practically custom build to WTFPWN dwarves - they all have block and relatively easy access to guard, right?

twonky

7th April 2009, 18:18

Yes but paper armour its going to be me Av7 v Av9 im ging to get hurt a lot more cant get guard on linemen only general skills

Sideshow

7th April 2009, 18:43

Av7 v Av9+Thick Skull

GingerPrinz

7th April 2009, 18:44

Norse won last time didn't they? MA6 is always gonna be problematic for any team with lots of ma4 guys if they get stretched, just gotta be creative!

twonky

14th April 2009, 15:31

Whats happening with the other div 2 teams? are they playing its been over a week since Pit and I beat the shit out of each other

--Mogwai--

14th April 2009, 16:01

Whats happening with the other div 2 teams? are they playing its been over a week since Pit and I beat the shit out of each other

hopefully they will play :) these rounds ideally need a deadline...

GingerPrinz

14th April 2009, 16:27

Iain asked me to play the other day but I was busy. Sure we'll catch each other at some point this week. FYI Iain I am out probably tonight and deffo tomorrow.

Baron_Greenback

15th April 2009, 12:33

and I have to wait for the outcome of that game before I can play Iain.

twonky

22nd April 2009, 14:30

Looks like div2 has fallen apart again

GingerPrinz

22nd April 2009, 14:35

I know it's my fault, I've been killer busy.

Sideshow

26th April 2009, 21:25

Dave won 2-0, amended the top post.

GingerPrinz

27th April 2009, 10:02

That game was ridiculous, weird things kept happening and we decided to just end it at turn 10, since there were two functioning balls on the pitch. Now I'm off to revise my "never seen any bugs" post... Iain also skipped a turn, either due to a misclick or program error, which suited me fine as it was a turn 6 kickoff return.

Baron_Greenback

5th May 2009, 12:35

Grudge rematch Skaven vs Humans

Human Factor 2 - 1 Ratformers (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2658259)

The first leg was 3-2 to the Rats.

This was a fun match with the AG5 gutter runner generally just being a complete (and for the majority of the match completely impervious to mighty blow tackles) pain in the ass. The game was fairly clean with 1 foul for each side.

1 Experienced Storm Rat with Guard was killed by an angry crab (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=player&player_id=6407849) in an otherwise largely bloodless encounter.

TK-Maximus

5th May 2009, 13:28