Blood Bowl Division 1 Season 1

[Sideshow]

The League has begun, as detailed here (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2210) and here (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2216). This thread for an overview of the season, each week will get it's own thread to post results / links to replays etc in.

Week 14 has begun, game deadline is Sunday April 5th, 2pm - 7pm (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2358)

# | Team | Coach | G W D L TD | P
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1 | Soul and Sword (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=524921) | Mogwai | 14 10 2 2 23 | 32
2 | Groshbags Running Sores (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=524877) | twonky | 14 8 1 5 10 | 25
3 | Double Edged Sword (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=524916) | GingerPrinz | 13 7 3 3 6 | 24
4 | Titania’s Kiss (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=518558) | Sideshow | 14 6 3 5 1 | 21
5 | Caveman and The Cavemen (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=524891) | Captain_Caveman | 14 5 4 5 2 | 19
6 | Greenback's Gravediggers (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=525097) | Baron Greenback | 13 3 3 7 -8 | 12
7 | Hugh Jarces (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=526757) | gor | 13 3 1 9 -20 | 10
8 | Guild of Collegiate Investors (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=524419) | TK-Maximus | 13 2 3 8 -14 | 9

Best Players
Stat Highest Player(s)
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Mvp 4 Sgt Hatred
Rush 173 TheLOLkid
MA 9 Talisker, Fettercairn
AG 5 The Monarch (RIP), Allt-a-Bhainne, Number 24
Spp 51 Cervantes
Pass 79 Kilik
It 2 Hurg
ST 6 Bowed One
Fouls 27 An Cnoc
AV 10 Bowed One
Cs 11 Zotan
Blocks 145 Caveman
TD 9 Cervantes
Cp 20 Phantom Limb

Matches
Week 1 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2218)
Week 2 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2228)
Week 3 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2242)
Week 4 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2256)
Week 5 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=33884)
Week 6 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2281)
Week 7 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34187)
Week 8 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34270)
Week 9 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2306)
Week 10 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34580)
Week 11 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34700#post34700)
Week 12 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34767#post34767)
Week 13 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?p=34872#post34872)
Week 14 (http://forum.pausegaming.com/showthread.php?t=2358)

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[TK-Maximus]

Am I able to retire my team now and play a fresh one for game 2.

My team has been rendered unplayable.

[Sideshow]

Not as the league was laid out, you're supposed to play through adversity! Larry is down two men same as you, while I'm down one.

[TK-Maximus]

Yes, but larry has a viable team on the board having gotten 2 skillups and I don't.

I'll give it some consideration, but atm I see no point in me sitting through 2 hours of someone else murdering my squad, so i would be better just conceeding each match.

[--Mogwai--]

elves can play with 9 surely, and you've still all the important players left :)

fingers crossed we get paired up next round...

[twonky]

How are the pairings made
drawn out of the hat or does Sideshow just decide on a week by week basis who he wants to play

[Baron_Greenback]

Maybe it would have been a good idea to have bought some spare players?

You pays your moneys and you take your chances. I guess even a linesman is an expensive proposition for elves.

[Sideshow]

The pairings are decided randomly. Everyone will play everyone once in a random order, then everyone will play everyone again, in a random order. The random order is generated by a program, and I only ask it a week at a time, so no-one knows who they are playing next, not even me.

gor is actually away for the week, which I didn't know or I wouldn't have started without him. As such, we'll delay his game v baron greenback til he gets back.

[--Mogwai--]

shouldnt the pairings for at least the first half of the season be made? it could matter for picking skills, if you knew what the run of opponents was going to be. might add an extra strategic element?

[Captain_Caveman]

I need not know what my opponent is, I know what skills to pick GUARD!!!! :D

[Sideshow]

There's a strategic element either way, and I think more-so the way it is now, which adds an element of chance (which is very BB in nature). For example, I'm planning on giving most of my line-elves Dodge as their first pick skill. However, Dodge will be useless against the dwarves, so do I try and pick the misc skills first (Kick, DP, etc) hoping that I'll meet the dwarves in the next couple of games, or do I just get on with the Dodging and accept that my elves will be horribly underskilled if we meet dwarves in game 5?

[GingerPrinz]

I think in future seasons the fixture list for the season should be viewable from team creation. For instance all of these teams with 10 or 9 men might well have gotten an extra member or two if they knew they were gonna be playing bashy teams. I certainly would appreciate knowing in advance when I'm gonna be playing Nurgle so I can get a lineman or two extra as opposed to another positional player.

[Sideshow]

Well, it was pretty clear from the roster that there were bashy teams (n/m that BB is systemically bashy), but you actually can't start an elf team with more than 11 players (unless you sacrifice FF and RRs, which is a really bad idea).
If you want to be prepared for your next opponent, then don't spend your cash immediately after games, wait til your next match and spend before it. You're gonna be playing Nurgle, Chaos and Dwarves, plus Larry's Dark Elves: if you think you need extra linemen for bashy teams then get them now.

[--Mogwai--]

You're gonna be playing Nurgle, Chaos and Dwarves, plus Larry's Dark Elves: if you think you need extra linemen for bashy teams then get them now.

why am i on that list?!?!?!?!?! dark elf?!?! we score TDs, not CAS...

[Sideshow]

That's not what you told me last night!

[brialzebub]

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=520299

My team... not included in league... I think I've figured out how it works... maybe... umm... :)

Anyway, for a cup tournament you wouldnt know your fixtures, it'd be random. But for a league match you should know your fixtures in advance, I should think. Which would definitely help planning appropriate choices for a league season.

[GingerPrinz]

Brialzebub add me on MSN (contact details on my profile) and give me a shout when you want a ladder match. I have a fresh Orc team that will be a good matchup for your team (they've only played 1 game).

[brialzebub]

My team hates orcs. They tend to lose players more to orcs than any other team (well, apart from undead)... eeep

(by that I mean, I have actual Norse bloodbowl miniatures, and back in the day they'd get creamed often, but most often by orcs)

[Sideshow]

Just a heads up about setting up your games: the proxy servers are pretty terrible; adding an extra layer in which Thing Can Go Wrong and also going down regularly. No-one wants a disconnection in the middle of their game (it borks the replay for one thing), so you are much better off joining directly to the player who is serving. However, this is tricker to set up for that player: in order to set your machine up to be directly joined you need to fanny around with your router: 1st, find out what your local IP address is for your pc (in network settings, or 'ipconfig' at a cmd prompt). Then go into your router's control panel (usually through a web browser) and have it forward a port to that ip (I usually use 8082). While you are in your routers control panel, have a look on it's status page to see what your internet IP address is.
Now when you are starting your game on fumbbl, select No Proxy from the drop down, and change the port to the one you forwarded and start the server. The player connecting has to select no proxy, and put in your internet IP address as the host name, along with the port you chose before hitting join. Hope some of you can get this working, it's a ton more stable than using the proxies.

[Sideshow]

As was talked about in the pub (and alluded to by the thread title) I was angling toward running more than one division. Primarily this was to allow fresh teams to feed into the premier division, either as replacements for current coaches or to allow other coaches to join in. Originally the idea was to start the first season of division 2 at the same time as division 1 started it's second season, but I think that the gap between in time and SPPs is too large doing it that way, so: How about we have division 2 (and it's successors) running on a single-match round-robin basis - everyone plays everyone else once, so effectively half the length of the premier division, and start it at the mid-season point that's coming up for division one (when everyone in division one has played everyone else once). From then on, just before any season begins a coach may swap his team with a team in another division which is about to begin a season.
Does that make sense? Div 2 would be purely optional, so would be for any new players wanting to join in, and for current players who'd like/are able to play more than one game a week. Who wants to?

[--Mogwai--]

blah blah blah ... play more than one game a week. Who wants to?

me!

[GingerPrinz]

As was talked about in the pub (and alluded to by the thread title) I was angling toward running more than one division. Primarily this was to allow fresh teams to feed into the premier division, either as replacements for current coaches or to allow other coaches to join in. Originally the idea was to start the first season of division 2 at the same time as division 1 started it's second season, but I think that the gap between in time and SPPs is too large doing it that way, so: How about we have division 2 (and it's successors) running on a single-match round-robin basis - everyone plays everyone else once, so effectively half the length of the premier division, and start it at the mid-season point that's coming up for division one (when everyone in division one has played everyone else once). From then on, just before any season begins a coach may swap his team with a team in another division which is about to begin a season.
Does that make sense? Div 2 would be purely optional, so would be for any new players wanting to join in, and for current players who'd like/are able to play more than one game a week. Who wants to?

For sure count me in. I was wondering when/if you were gonna implement Div 2. One quick question - how would new coaches advance to Div1? Would it be a case of TR cap, or lowest guy goes down highest comes up (providing ofc that the player with the high team doesn't already have a team in that division)?

[Sideshow]

It wouldn't be like the real world with a set forced promotion/relegation. Coaches would be free to swap teams between the divisions as they see fit. We could put in mandatory promotion for teams who have already played a season in the division they are in and where their coach doesn't have a team in the next division up.

[GingerPrinz]

Sounds totally sweet. Hope we do get some new folks in, I've been doing my darndest to recruit some fresh blood. Ru and Brialzabub should join too, surely they can manage one game a week!! What're you saying boys?

[TK-Maximus]

I'm certainly up for Div 2. The Guild of Colegiate Investors is somewhat dead. (Soon to be deader. Gor! Nooooo! Owww Owww My Face!)

How will you cope with the Highlander duplications?

[Sideshow]

When we start Div 2 we'll make team selection for it highlander. After that we'll let teams move freely. The point of highlander was to get a good spread of teams, rather than half a dozen squads of Orks fighting each other. So while we may end up with a couple of the same race in a division, it'll still be diverse enough to be interesting.

[Sideshow]

Half way through the season! Looking at the scores, we see that while Soul and Sword have been leading since the beginning, they haven't managed to establish a sizable lead, and in fact any of the top 6 teams have a good shot of coming out ahead with a strong performance in the second half. Double Edged Sword and Groshbag's Running Sores don't even have to hope for Mogwai to have a bad match, they can claim victory purely through the virtue of their own skills.

Post your memorable moments. Mine would be Bowed One, Titania's Kiss #1, refusing to go down against an engulfing swarm of Dwarves hell bent on his destruction, staying on his roots long enough to hold up 5 opposing players before finally going down.

[twonky]

Mine would be my game against Caveman and the Cavemen. The beast having the game of its life failed very few really stupid rolls and managed to wade into a huge group of dwarves causing no end of trouble with its tentacles

[Sideshow]

Seriously, I just wanted to.

[gor]

SRSLY!?!

[Baron_Greenback]

WORD.

[Sideshow]

posting a reply cause pit's an idiot

[Sideshow]

and so is someone else

[twonky]

Just seen the score from Pit v the Dwarves cant believe he managed a draw that must of been the most awesome game. Only managed to see the first TD damn

[--Mogwai--]

Just seen the score from Pit v the Dwarves cant believe he managed a draw that must of been the most awesome game. Only managed to see the first TD damn

The replay suggests that Aaron was infact cheating, having hired some sort of untrained monkey to play on his behalf. Pit was unlucky not to win!!

[twonky]

Man now I need someone to rollover like Gor did so I can catch up with Mogwais TDs
Still got a 18 point Cas difference which is nice

[GingerPrinz]

T'aint gonna be me brother :)

In fact after our match you might need someone to roll YOU over to stop you from choking on your own blood :D

[twonky]

Awesome response. yeah I think our game will go badly for me what with the lack of an apoth and all. to be honest im suprised ive got this far without the whole team being crippled.

[--Mogwai--]

Yeah, av8 no apoth ... you're long overdue some casualties Graeme! ( a 20 cas 0-0 draw in that game would suit me fine)

[Sideshow]

s/20/25

[--Mogwai--]

Can we get the draw for week 12 now? (unless i've complete missed a week 11 game that wasn't played yet).

[twonky]

I thought I might hand out some kudos to the individual players doing their best

Most Completions Phantom Limb (Guild of Collegiate Investors) 20

Most Touchdowns Cervantes (Soul and Sword) 8

Most Interceptions Hurg (Groshbags Running Sores) 2

Most Casualties Zotan (Groshbags Running Sores) 10

Most MVPS Zotan (Groshbags Running Sores) 3
Caveman (Caveman and The Cavemen) 3
Kain (Greenback's Gravediggers) 3
Louder than Bombs (Hugh Jarces) 3

Most Star Player Points Zotan (Groshbags Running Sores) 42

Most Fouls An Cnoc (Titania’s Kiss) a horrific 24

This was done in a hurry so if anyone wants to point out a mistake please feel free
will update to include most blocks and such like soon

[--Mogwai--]

nice, twonky!

I'd been keeping an eye on them, was going to do a top5 for each category once the season was over.

24 fouls... that is.. filthy.

[Sideshow]

Really wish it kept track of kills...

[GingerPrinz]

Most blocks: Caveman (117)

[Sideshow]

Obviously what you do when your bored is make a program to scrape the league site. So:
Stat Highest Player(s)
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Mvp 4 Sgt Hatred
Rush 173 TheLOLkid
MA 9 Talisker, Fettercairn
AG 5 The Monarch, Allt-a-Bhainne, Number 24
Spp 42 Zotan
Pass 66 Kilik
It 2 Hurg
ST 6 Bowed One
Fouls 24 An Cnoc
AV 10 Bowed One
Cs 10 Zotan
Blocks 117 Caveman
TD 8 Cervantes
Cp 20 Phantom Limb

[twonky]

nice Yay boredom and time on hands I see I messed up the MVP and missed out Sgt Hatred

[--Mogwai--]

is this still going? surely week 14 should have started by now? :)

[Captain_Caveman]

How bored am I, Caveman now has 130 blocks off 13 games that makes it that 62.5% of the time or it would if he didn't potentially throw 2 blocks every turn with frenzy.

[twonky]

Meat is Murder has jumped ahead of An Cnoc in the most fouls caused a nasty 26 fouls in 13 games

[Sideshow]

Got round to updating. Big game for GingerPrinz - if he can beat TK-Maximus he gets second place!

[GingerPrinz]

:O REALLY?????? I thought that I was destined for 3rd. Oh well Pit, unlucky, star players inc.

[Sideshow]

But Pit and Gor are fighting to avoid the wooden spoon! (as is Greenback, who has to hope against both of them pulling off a huge win. Of course, he might lose on TD tiebreak anyway, since I'll be awarding Stars for the Most Happening Player)

[GingerPrinz]

Actually, just before I go all out. What's the benefit to 2nd place? Does it give me a higher seeding/better pick in the cup? Does it guarantee (as it should IMO) that I don't have to face Larry in the first 2 rounds?

[Baron_Greenback]

But Pit and Gor are fighting to avoid the wooden spoon! (as is Greenback, who has to hope against both of them pulling off a huge win. Of course, he might lose on TD tiebreak anyway, since I'll be awarding Stars for the Most Happening Player)

ARGGGGGGH

ANGRY WITH RAGE!>................. STARS SHIT SHIT STARS >>>>>>>>><,,,, ARRRRRRRR MY HEAD ASSPLODE!

[GingerPrinz]

I'm unlikely to lose 7-0 charles, you'll probably be fine

[Sideshow]

You don't need to. You just need to lose 3-0, and for gor to win 4-0 too.

[Sideshow]

Updated table (since someone was trying to usurp An Cnoc)

Stat Highest Player(s)
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Mvp 4 Sgt Hatred
Rush 173 TheLOLkid
MA 9 Talisker, Fettercairn
AG 5 The Monarch, Allt-a-Bhainne, Number 24
Spp 51 Cervantes
Pass 79 Kilik
It 2 Hurg
ST 6 Bowed One
Fouls 27 An Cnoc
AV 10 Bowed One
Cs 11 Zotan
Blocks 145 Caveman
TD 9 Cervantes
Cp 20 Phantom Limb

[Sid]

Why am I in there? And what does "rush" mean?

[GingerPrinz]

You're my quarterback. Rush is the amount of spaces you have moved forwards while carrying the ball. You carry the ball A LOT.

[Sideshow]

GingerPrinz and Captain_Caveman both used the same unimaginative naming scheme for their teams: pause members. I could output the table with a url link to the player so that you can tell them apart, but I figure they deserve to be punished for their lack of style.

[GingerPrinz]

Meh, I had no idea Aaron had done it, just as I'm sure he had no idea that I did it, and naming a team after the people in the society is about as imaginative as naming at after anything else that already exists tbh.

[Sideshow]

Clearly not, since it required so little thought that two different people independently picked it.

[GingerPrinz]

I'm sure it was a massive stretch to come up with computer game/manga-anime/beverage brands/smiths song. Truly innovation has been witnessed this day.

[Sideshow]

I think most people's teams have good/interesting/identifiable names. Except you and Caveman. Who have shit names. Your names are shit.

[GingerPrinz]

My names are identifiable as the people in the league. My team name - Double edged sword - implies that by hurting my team you are hurting yourself. Wordplay motherfucker.

[Sideshow]

My names are identifiable as the people in the league. My team name - Double edged sword - implies that by hurting my team you are hurting yourself. Wordplay motherfucker.

Little here is true.

[GingerPrinz]

Yup you've proved me wrong, boy am I smarting now...

I'm just off to the pub to console myself over a nice glass of Bowed One........:?:

EDIT: Are you bored at work btw? I have some stuff to do so I can't feed you anymore :(

[Sideshow]

I used to think Gus was bad at arguing... now I see who he was practicing with.

[Baron_Greenback]

Let's settle this the nintendo way

Sideshow : You get a star for starting and Apparently having the last word.

GingerPrinz : You get a star for the shortest sentence.

Twonky : Gets a star for *NO REASON WHATSOEVER*

The result -- a shitty draw.

[Sideshow]

Some might say you were bitter. I don't remember there being a star for NO REASON WHATSOEVER; I remember Paul got a star for his level of Happeningness. I also don't remember a draw; I remember a LOOOOOOOOOSER

[Baron_Greenback]

Can you describe a situation where

LEVEL OF HAPPINGNESS <> NO REASON WHATSOEVER

And yes -- I am still bitter. I cherish that little kernel of RAGE that stupid (can't call it a game) THING was doing.

Fuck your STARS Nintendo. Fuck them.

[Sideshow]

Well, I would rather be Happening than Whatever

[GingerPrinz]

Lolwut? Is this is Smash Bros or something? :)

[Sideshow]

Mario Party

[twonky]

I get a star, I get a star Yay.... What do I do with it

[Baron_Greenback]

Shut up about your damn star

it was awarded for no good reason

unless you are the fonz - in which case -- take a star as the most HAPPENING guy.

otherwise.

fuck your star. You don't deserve it.

Mario fucking party.

[GingerPrinz]

Actually, just before I go all out. What's the benefit to 2nd place? Does it give me a higher seeding/better pick in the cup? Does it guarantee (as it should IMO) that I don't have to face Larry in the first 2 rounds?

Could I get an answer for this please?

[Sideshow]

Second place is second place. The prize is pride. That's all.

[GingerPrinz]

So the cup format is just a straight up random 8 draw?

[Sideshow]

Yes

[GingerPrinz]

:(

[--Mogwai--]

Pish, innit?

[Sideshow]

I know I haven't been hassling people to play these games, but with only 2 to go before the season is over... you guys wanna play them sometime soon? :)

[Baron_Greenback]

OK -- Gor -- My weak Necros await their demise at Chaos hands.

I'll be free most nights after half 10.