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DAve
30th September 2005, 14:48
How odd. There seems to be a timer counting down to something on ATI's website.

http://www.ati.com/

I wonder what that might be.
[beard stroking]

Exuus
30th September 2005, 15:01
It's for the new R520

DAve
5th October 2005, 11:43
The timer now reads "enter a world of new visual velocity" or some other such crap, and tells us to check back on the 10th.

It's crap like this that really made me sick of ATI.

Strings
5th October 2005, 12:00
lmao

I honest to god thought they would actually hold to this one.

Remember Nvidia's mysterious Power of 3? Sure it was just the release of the GTs, but at least they kept to it.

Well played ATI :r

DAve
5th October 2005, 16:05
Yeah, after getting their ass soundly whupped by nvidia, I would have thought that they would have learned some hard lessons.

Seems like they haven't.

I could be wrong though, they might have a really good reason for getting us all worked up, the X1100 (or whatever the new card name is) could blow the 7800's out of the water. It seems a bit unlikely though.

DAve
6th October 2005, 12:20
Aparently the X1100 series has been launched. Unfortunately, they've not put actual specs up on the ATI site, just the pipelines and the transister count, so we can't directly compare to the 7800.

I've downloaded the assasin (ttp://www2.ati.com/multimedia/radeonx1k/ATI-Demo-TheAssassin-v1.0.zip)and toyshop (http://www2.ati.com/multimedia/radeonx1k/ATI-Demo-ToyShop-v1.1.zip) videos though, and will report back when they finish.

Assasin: vorpal norkage. OK, some nice high poly counts.

toyshop: some great water effects, nice brick textures, great lighting. Cool coundtrack as well. I prefer this one.

DAve
11th October 2005, 10:51
It sounds like the ati X1_00 series has been launched in a hail of silence.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X1800_Series.html

The cards look very sprightly though :P

DAve
11th October 2005, 11:24
The benchmarks look goooood. It humps the 7800 quite convincingly. ATI has aparently overhauled the design of the chips since the X800, making them much more efficient. Tom's hardware says that in HL2, the X1300 beats the 7800 in a straight fight.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20051006/ati_enters_the_x1000_promised_land-14.html

Bluepixie
11th October 2005, 11:34
The benchmarks look goooood. It humps the 7800 quite convincingly. ATI has aparently overhauled the design of the chips since the X800, making them much more efficient. Tom's hardware says that in HL2, the X1300 beats the 7800 in a straight fight.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20051006/ati_enters_the_x1000_promised_land-14.html

HOLY SHIT BALLS! That's quite a sound wiping!

The difference at high res in particular is amazing. Look out nVidia, ATi has the quad damage........and a railgun.

Strings
11th October 2005, 12:15
Looking good. But they still buggered up their launch comically. Wont be out for most people until November or something. Cant remember where I read it.. but it was funny

"Product Launches: YES
Paper Launches: NO"

Happily sums up ATI's recent performance, regardless of how good the new card is.

Fyndir
12th October 2005, 19:52
So I should buy one of these as a replacement to my current NVIDIA POS that uses Turbocache? =P

Get your filthy graphics memory hands off of my RAM. >=(

Strings
12th October 2005, 22:55
If your willing to wait for them go for it.. but they will be pretty expensive. Go for a 7800 GT.

And yes, Nvidia pay me to advertise.

DAve
13th October 2005, 11:35
I must get around to asking nvidia / ati if they would sponsor us. Maybe I can convince bluepixie to do that :)

The 7800's are dropping in price like a stone. I'm sure I saw one for £250 last week. That's practically a steal. And 6800s are about £80. You can't ask fairer than that.

Fyndir
13th October 2005, 12:22
I must get around to asking nvidia / ati if they would sponsor us. Maybe I can convince bluepixie to do that :)

The 7800's are dropping in price like a stone. I'm sure I saw one for £250 last week. That's practically a steal. And 6800s are about £80. You can't ask fairer than that.

My computer at home (it's fairly new) came with an NVIDIA 6200 256MB, but as I mentioned in another post it's Turbocache (which I hate) and thus actually has somewhere in the region of 32MB of Graphics Memory and leeches the rest from my RAM. =(

Which is why halfway through raids on WOW I get "out of memory" errors, which I didn't think was realistically possible (under normal circumstances where you're being reasonable with the machine) with 1GB of RAM. =/

Oh, incase any of you are interested:

This is the computer I bought in June or so, it's pretty nice for a prebuilt and the price wasn't too bad. (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1230352105.112919860 4@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceaddfmdilhdjcflgceggdhhmdfhl.0&page=Product&sku=700034) <---any suggestions any of you have regarding a graphics card for less than £200 to go with that (that's just about all my money atm, unless I can convince my dad that it's his fault I need a new card for making me buy a prebuilt instead of parts..) would be greatly appreciated. =)

As you may have noticed, I hate making new topics for things, so instead I just make rather long and slightly rambling posts in current topics.

Sid
13th October 2005, 13:35
I'll assume you have a motherboard with PCI-E...

Leadtek WinFast GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-049-LT)

From overclockers.co.uk for £193.82.

Or if you can afford to pay a little more (definitely worth it):

BFG GeForce 7800 GT OC 256MB GDDR3 VIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-010-BG)

Again from overclockers.co.uk for £229.07.

Fyndir
13th October 2005, 14:20
I'll assume you have a motherboard with PCI-E...


You can have a look at it next LAN and laugh at the bizarre design in which one of the PCI slots is pretty much impossible to put anything into. =/

Or you can...get into my van, I have sweeties...not knockoutdrops, nono..sweeties..
>_>
<_<

Oh noez, I hope that wasn't offensive. =O

EDIT: I just checked (by looking at the NVIDIA section on Overclockers for the different 6200's and finding mine) and it is PCI-E it uses, I couldn't remember before. I'll look into getting one or the other, death to the Turbocache! Cheers mate. =)

DAve
13th October 2005, 14:59
I would second the 7800 option. If you're spending £200 on a graphics card, then an extra 20 to get a super-dooper all-singing and dancing card is definitely worth it.

Try and get it on special offer or something. Even if you don't 220 is a bargain.

[/jealous]
:)

PS, I hope that the PCworld is just for an idea of the specs. I have this thing about PCworld. Well, more the staff in PCworld. I really shouldn't get started on a rant.

Fyndir
13th October 2005, 16:48
I would second the 7800 option. If you're spending £200 on a graphics card, then an extra 20 to get a super-dooper all-singing and dancing card is definitely worth it.

Try and get it on special offer or something. Even if you don't 220 is a bargain.

[/jealous]
:)

PS, I hope that the PCworld is just for an idea of the specs. I have this thing about PCworld. Well, more the staff in PCworld. I really shouldn't get started on a rant.

It IS a good deal, yeah, I just offered £200 as an estimate for how much I'll spend.

The PC World thing is my actual computer. =(

I picked the approximate specs I wanted and went looking everywhere, I talked to their sales staff for all of 5 minutes in total going "No, no monitor, no, no bullshit extended warranty, just the fucking PC." and then their support staff two days later when it broke and I had to get it replaced. =P

Also I'm trying to get a job there, sales or support if they'll have me.

"No, you're not buying that, it's overpriced, have this one." kinda stuff.

Sid
13th October 2005, 17:24
i can tell you for a fact that a 7800GT for ~£220 is an absolute bargain. chances are you might even get even better bargains after the X1800 is around.

Personally I will be buying the 7800GT sometime soon. The 6800GT will run current games on 1280x1024 with full detail and 4xAA perfectly well.

However, for £20 extra, it's a good safeguard for newer games and higher resolutions to buy the 7800GT. £20 for a 4 whole extra pixel pipelines... you can't go wrong!

Fyndir
13th October 2005, 17:57
i can tell you for a fact that a 7800GT for ~£220 is an absolute bargain. chances are you might even get even better bargains after the X1800 is around.

Personally I will be buying the 7800GT sometime soon. The 6800GT will run current games on 1280x1024 with full detail and 4xAA perfectly well.

However, for £20 extra, it's a good safeguard for newer games and higher resolutions to buy the 7800GT. £20 for a 4 whole extra pixel pipelines... you can't go wrong!

Actually that brings up a good point, I may be better off waiting to see how prices go after the release of the X1800, but I'm impatient so I might not bother...