New Constitution Draft 2007/08

[Bluepixie]

Current version

Constitution

Constitution of PAUSE GAMING - Glasgow University Network-Gaming Society

Contents

• 1 NAME
• 2 AIMS
• 3 MEMBERSHIP
• 4 THE COMMITTEE
o 4.1 MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE
• 5 GENERAL MEETINGS
o 5.1 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETINGS
o 5.2 ELECTIONS
o 5.3 EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETINGS
• 6 RULES OF CONDUCT
• 7 THIS DOCUMENT
• 8 DEFINITION OF WORDAGE
• 9 MEMBER RESPONSIBILITES
• 10 EVENTS
• 11 MATTERS OF SOCIETY DOGMA


NAME
The Society shall be known as “PAUSE GAMING,” which shall be subtitled “Glasgow University Network-Gaming Society”.

AIMS
The aim of the Society shall be to promote all forms of computerised, multiplayer gaming.

MEMBERSHIP
3.1 Membership of the Society shall be open to matriculated students of Glasgow University. Associate membership of the Society shall be open to other persons subject to the discretion of the Committee, provided that active associate members account for no more than twenty percent of the total membership and no more than ten percent of the total voting members at Annual and Extraordinary General Meetings.
3.2 Membership shall be conferred upon payment of an annual membership fee, the amount of which shall be decided by the Committee immediately prior to the Fresher’s Week each year. All existing memberships shall lapse at the beginning of the Fresher’s Week.
3.3 Honorary membership of the Society shall be conferred upon Presidents of the Society who have completed their term of office, and also to invited guests of the Society at the discretion of the Committee. Honorary members shall henceforth be deemed to be members of the Society for the span of their natural lives.
3.4 Upon joining the Society, each member shall be given a unique membership number (as written on their membership card).
3.5 The Society may enter into reciprocal agreements with other societies of similar nature, whereby members of those other societies shall be entitled to all privileges of Pause Gaming membership – with the sole exception of participation in the Society vote – insofar as Pause Gaming members enjoy similar privileges within those other societies. Such agreements shall be entered into by the decision of the Committee, subject to annual ratification by membership vote; the names of those societies with which such agreements exist shall be entered into the Society’s minutes.

THE COMMITTEE
4.1 The Society shall be administrated by an elected Committee, composed of the following posts as ordered by seniority:
1. President
2. Secretary
3. Treasurer
4. Server Admin
5. OCM
6. Web Admin
4.1.1 At least two of the committee posts of President, Secretary and Treasurer must be fully matriculated students of the University of Glasgow at the time of their appointment. No person may be permitted to hold more than one Committee post at a time.
4.2 The President shall be responsible for the overall operation of the Society, overseeing the functions of other Committee members. The President shall be charged with performing or appropriately delegating tasks for which no particular Committee member is responsible, in addition to functioning as primary liaison with organisations external to the Society.
4.3 The Secretary shall be responsible for keeping the minutes of Society meetings and conducting routine administrative tasks.
4.4 The Treasurer shall be responsible for any and all funds amassed by the Society, administrating its bank accounts and finances.
4.5 The Server Admin shall be responsible for maintaining any servers required to ensure the smooth operation of the society networked events.
4.6 The O.C.M. shall be responsible for publicising of forthcoming Society events, and also for oversight of the Society website and publications. In addition to these duties, the O.C.M. will help the Committee in the general running of the society as required by the Committee, in particular the exercising of specific duties of other Committee members where the member in question is unable to perform these duties.
4.7 The Web Admin shall be responsible for the creation, maintenance and editing of the society website.
4.8 The Committee shall decide upon the events and activities undertaken by the Society.
4.9.1 Such decision shall be taken at Committee meetings, which shall be held in an easily accessible place in Glasgow with at least one week’s notice given. This notice may only be waved in case of emergency. Committee meetings shall be held at least once per University term.
4.9.2 Two thirds of the presently active Committee shall be the quorum for Committee meetings, chaired by the most senior member present.
4.9.3 Committee decisions shall be made by majority consensus and subject to review at later Committee meetings; the meeting chairperson shall have a casting vote.
4.9.4 All Committee meetings shall be open to any interested members of the Society; the minutes of all meetings shall be made available to the Society in a timely manner.
4.9.5 Any Committee member absent from two consecutive meetings without giving apology can – at the discretion of the Committee – be suspended. Until such time as the Committee is unanimously satisfied that the absences were justified, the duties of the suspended Committee member shall be carried out by another Committee or Society member nominated by the remaining Committee. If not thus satisfied after one month of absence, the Committee may appoint a temporary replacement for that post, subject to ratification at an Extraordinary General Meeting: the suspended Committee member may stand for re-election.


MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE
4.8 If two thirds of the Committee or a petition of twenty members or fifteen percent of the Society’s membership – whichever is less – so move, then a Committee member must face a motion of no confidence at a meeting of the Society. The Committee member so challenged must be given at least two weeks of written notice of this motion, and must be given the opportunity to present a defence at the meeting. If two thirds of the members present and voting at the meeting support the motion, the individual shall be removed from the Committee. The vacancy shall be filled as per the procedures for the replacement of suspended members.

GENERAL MEETINGS
5.1 The quorum for General Meetings shall be ten voting members or fifteen percent of the active voting membership – whichever is less – including at least two thirds of the active Committee members.
5.2 The most senior Committee member present, who shall have a casting vote if such is required, shall chair General Meetings.





ANNUAL GENERAL MEETINGS
5.3.1 The Annual General Meeting shall be held during the second Semester.
5.3.2 The order of business of the Annual General Meeting shall be as follows:
• . Reading of the minutes of the last Annual General Meeting.
• . Procedural matters, including any amendments to the constitution proposed by the outgoing Committee.
• . President’s Address.
• . Treasurer’s Statement.
• . Nominations from the floor for Committee positions.
• . Heckling meeting of candidates for election.
• . Election of the new Committee.
• . Procedural matters and constitutional amendments proposed by the new Committee or the membership.
• . Forthcoming events.
• . Other business that remains unresolved.

ELECTIONS
5.3.3.1 All Committee posts shall be open to election at the Annual General Meeting.
5.3.3.2 Only members of the Society may stand for election to the Committee. Candidates for the office of President must be (or have been) matriculated students of the University of Glasgow.
5.3.3.3 All nominations must be supported by a proposer, seconder and the candidate’s assent of approval.
5.3.3.4 Elections for posts shall be conducted in order of seniority, from most to least senior as dictated in section 4.I (above). Elections are by majority of members present and voting. The chairperson of the meeting shall establish procedure. Postal votes shall be accepted if submitted to the Committee before the start of the meeting, clearly stating both the name and membership number of the voting member along with voting preference. Votes by proxy shall not be permitted.
5.3.3.5 Any nominated candidate who is defeated for a particular post may be orally nominated at the meeting for any other post.

EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETINGS
5.4.1 An Extraordinary General Meeting may be called by the decision of the Committee, or by petition of ten members or fifteen percent of the membership, whichever is less. At least two week’s notice of an Extraordinary General Meeting shall be given to the Society, except in emergency. An emergency Extraordinary General Meeting may be held immediately, but any decisions that it reaches are strictly subject to ratification at a full Extraordinary General Meeting two weeks later, or at the Annual General Meeting, whichever is soonest.
5.4.2 Procedure and order of business for an Extraordinary General Meeting are as for the Annual General Meeting, except:
• . Committee posts are not automatically open to election.
• . Any motions of no confidence proposed at an Extraordinary General Meeting must be conducted prior to any elections.
• . If desired by a two-thirds majority of those present and voting, a Committee post made vacant by a motion of no confidence at may be put up for immediate election. Otherwise, election shall be held at an Extraordinary General Meeting two weeks later, or at the Annual General Meeting, whichever is soonest.
5.4.3 Ratification of an emergency Extraordinary General Meeting shall be by two thirds majority of those present and voting at the subsequent, full Extraordinary General Meeting or Annual General Meeting.
5.4.4 All decisions other than those specified above shall require a majority vote, save that reversing any earlier decision shall require a majority of two thirds.

RULES OF CONDUCT
6.1 The Society shall neither participate in nor condone any actions which discriminate against individuals on grounds of gender, race, disability, sexuality, religion, political affiliation, OS, ideology or age.
6.2 Any member dissatisfied with the activities of the Society or its Committee should bring his or her grievances to any Committee member, and then to the whole Committee if they remain unsatisfied.
6.3 The Committee shall not use Society funds for personal purchases.
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THIS DOCUMENT

DEFINITION OF WORDAGE
7.1.1 Though effort has been made to keep the wording of this document gender-neutral, any words in this Constitution that indicate masculine or feminine gender may also be read as their trans-gendered, multi-gendered or gender-neutral equivalents. We are a gaming society of equal opportunities.
7.2 Only a quorate General Meeting of the Society may amend this Constitution. A two thirds majority of those present and voting shall be required to pass any amendment or adopt another Constitution; proxy and postal votes may not be used.
7.3 The Secretary of the Society shall ensure the Constitution conforms to current Society policy, and shall preserve dated historical copies of it.
7.4 An up-to-date copy of the Constitution shall be made available to the Society's members at the start of each term.

MEMBER RESPONSIBILITES
8.1 Neither Pause Gaming nor its Committee shall be held responsible for any damages or cost of reparations due to loss, negligence, stupidity, unusual behaviour, planned action, act of god, act of dog, virus, worms, malware, software, hardware, misuse of property, proper use of property, foul language, power surge, lack of power or anything else conceivably going wrong.
8.2 Each member shall be held responsible for his or her own property, without exception.
8.3 By connecting to the network, members imply that their computer equipment is free of viruses and other malware and software detrimental to the function of the network and/or its constituent parts.
8.4 By connecting to the network, members imply that their computer equipment has been loaded with all of the most recent security patches and upgrades to both the operating system and programs used at the event.
8.5 Any member found to be gaining unlawful or unauthorised access to another member’s computer – for any reason – will be disconnected from the network and asked to leave the event immediately.
8.6 Any member that is abusive or disruptive or acts against the spirit of the society will be disconnected from the network and asked to leave the event immediately.
8.7 By connecting to the network, members imply that the software running on their computer has been legally obtained.
8.8 Subject to joining the Society, each member must agree to these terms without reservation or exception.
8.9 The Society reserves the right to impose other rules and regulations at network events.

EVENTS
9.1 The main interest of the society shall be the organising, promotion and hosting of network gaming events.
9.1.1 Each event shall be advertised both online and offline. This will include the rules of the event, the cost of the event and the games likely to be played therein.
9.1.2 If the committee decides, the membership shall be entitled to pre-register to attend an event upon payment of a deposit.
9.1.3 Priority shall be given to those members that have pre-registered and paid their deposit first. Non-registered members, those that have not paid the deposit and non-members may be required to surrender their place in the event in preference to registered, deposited members.
9.1.4 Each member shall use a unique screen name for each game. Arguments over player screen names shall be settled with a battle of skill or luck decided by the President (or other Committee member in his absence).
9.1.5 Any individual wishing to participate in society events must be a member of the society.
9.1.6 The society shall not be limited to Local Area Network gaming events. The society shall meet online for both gaming events and chat as desired, and other non-gaming events as dictated by the Committee.

MATTERS OF SOCIETY DOGMA
10.1 The preferred web browser for the Society shall be anything but Internet Explorer.
10.1.1 The users of the web browser Internet Explorer may be mocked occasionally for this oversight.

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

I loled at 8.1 ;p

Should 9.1.6 be '...meet online [and in RL]...'?

[Hex]

4.9.4 All Committee meetings shall be open to any interested members of the Society; the minutes of all meetings shall be made available to the Society in a timely manner.
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8.7 By connecting to the network, members imply that the software running on their computer has been legally obtained.
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MATTERS OF SOCIETY DOGMA
10.1 The preferred web browser for the Society shall be anything but Internet Explorer.
10.1.1 The users of the web browser Internet Explorer may be mocked occasionally for this oversight.


With regard to 4.9.4 where are the minutes gonna be made available? Obvious idea would be the website

With regard to 8.7, *snip* a fine and upstanding piece of the constitution, hear hear

With regard to section 10 - lolz ^^

[Fyndir]

I propose an addition of 10.2, which should read:

10.2 The Pausegaming Mascot is the pet Troll, the name of which should be assigned to a current member of the club. Should the club ever be without a Troll, bad things will happen.

Also, Hex, anyone running illegal software is doing so without the knowledge or consent of the committee, Pausegaming operates strictly and entirely within the law, hence the reason for that rule in the constitution.

[Bluepixie]

With regard to 4.9.4 where are the minutes gonna be made available? Obvious idea would be the website.

Good question! You should point that one at Strings, he deals with the minutes.

[Chesire Cat]

who specificalyl deals with promoting the LANS and basically getting the word out? Is that in secretarial duties or the president's?

[Fyndir]

who specificalyl deals with promoting the LANS and basically getting the word out? Is that in secretarial duties or the president's?

Read more.

"4.6 The O.C.M. shall be responsible for publicising of forthcoming Society events, and also for oversight of the Society website and publications."

[Chesire Cat]

right...so why has fndir been appearing to do nothing on that subject this year?

[Fyndir]

right...so why has fndir been appearing to do nothing on that subject this year?

'cause it's new to this version of the constitution.

If I remember correctly my duties before this version amounted to "Do whatever the President tells you to do". =/

[Chesire Cat]

doesnt sound very official.

[Fyndir]

doesnt sound very official.

I was telling you what the role AMOUNTED to, which means when you take away official wording and get right down to what it really means.

You can ask Strings about the official wording, he should probably have a copy of the older Constitution due to his role as Secretary.

[Bluepixie]

right...so why has fndir been appearing to do nothing on that subject this year?

K, I'll make this a bit clearer.

This is "an updated" version of the constitution for the next committee, not the current one. Much of the "new" OCM duties have been dealt with by me or sid. I realised however that a member should specifically be dealing with advertising etc and added it to the constitution after a committee meeting.

[Hex]

If you REALLY want to start bashing people for not doing their job, you don't need to go very far.

Lets leave it at that.

....

Lets call a swift change of subject, eh guys? Who likes cake?

[Fyndir]

Troll like goat cake!

[YegaDoyai]

9.1.4 Remove the requirement to use unique names and leave in the contest over names. Technically if anyone joins a game with the same name as someone else then they are in breach, when really all we need to state is that if there IS a dispute that we have a way of resolving it. I don't see it being an issue but in the interests of clarity.

[Phizz]

I think that is a good point Yega and Rock,paper, scissors sounds fair for deciding.

I'd like to second Fyndir's proposal too.

[Hex]

So, can we start collecting screennames by beating people in games of skill? Trading-card stylee lol, who can get the most screennames

[Fyndir]

So, can we start collecting screennames by beating people in games of skill? Trading-card stylee lol, who can get the most screennames

Well since the President picks the contest, Niall could just challenge everyone to 1vs1 Q3 and get a lot of names. ;)

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

Why only names?

Why not have a Rule:

6.4 Any disputes between Society members will be settled through 1) a Contest, in an Arena of the challenged-member's choice (unless over-ruled by the appointed Judge); 2) a Contest in an Arena of the Judge's choice (in the event of such over-ruling); 3) a Contest of luck (in the event of the Judge's choice being rejected by one or more of the combatants).
6.4.1 The Judge of such disputes shall be the President, any member of the Committee or a senior member of good-standing within the Society, eliminated in that order on the grounds of availability, willingness and objectivity.
6.4.2 The Contest shall take place at the next LAN following the declaration of a dispute, such declaration being made by either 1) the aggrieved party (the Challenger) 2) the aggrieving party (the Challangee) 3) the President or a member of the committee (or any Society member appointed as a forum Moderator).
6.4.3 The final decision on any such dispute, not excluding the roles of the involved parties (as described above), is entirely the responsibility of the Judge and may not be disputed by anyone, not excluding the committee. The Judge's decisions are final and need not be justified or explained.
6.4.4 The dispute may not be continued or discussed once it has been declared and may not be restarted following the Contest.
6.4.5 Arena may include any competitive activity with clear winners and losers. A contest of luck is one that includes no skill or other possible advantage.

9.1.4 Arguments over player screen names shall be settled with a Contest as described in 6.4.


Or something. What im getting at is that there is no reason we cant have a duelling system for other types of dispute (such as forum flaming/trolling) or just for a laugh.

There would probably need to be some system for punishing people who dont obey the rules and possibly a system for recording disputes and their outcomes.

And it gives us a reason to throw gloves at each other.

[Hex]

I second cannon_fodda's proposal, this sounds like a CLASS idea. Plus if the arena is a source game we can get source TV set up so the rest of us can watch the grudge-match on the projector!

However if we're declaring no more argument on the subject we would have to avoid things like "I think your an ass"; "I disagree, I am not an ass", "I challenge you..." cos it'd be a bit lame giving someone a free-ride on calling you an ass lol.

[LastChanceHotel]

I think the duelling rules should be modified to include the word 'danceoff'.

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

Maybe there should be a special section for danceoffs (and similar contests), since they should really be judged by crowd response? There would still need to be a judge aswell...

[LastChanceHotel]

Favouritism could be a problem.

[Hex]

I think danceoffs are taking it a bit far...besides we're a gaming society, we should settle our disputes in-game. If you really want dance-offs, I suggest you purchase a copy of Bust-A-Groove for the PS1, or one of the dancing mat games.

[LastChanceHotel]

I think danceoffs are taking it a bit far...besides we're a gaming society, we should settle our disputes in-game. If you really want dance-offs, I suggest you purchase a copy of Bust-A-Groove for the PS1, or one of the dancing mat games.

oh you extreme geek you.

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

we should settle our disputes in-game

Why? It's traditional to settle disputes round here with rock-paper-scissors. I don't think they have that for console yet.

[Hex]

Actually I can remember a game where all the boss fights were a version of rock paper scissors. I think it might have been Mystical Ninja for the N64, but I'm not certain. Either way, games of skill are a way better way to solve a dispute than a game of luck!

[Fyndir]

Why? It's traditional to settle disputes round here with rock-paper-scissors. I don't think they have that for console yet.

They have it as a flash game on PC...

[YegaDoyai]

That depends hex, what the skill in question was your abily to land an F16 with a flameout. With luck at least it is not fair in equal proportions.

[Hex]

That depends hex, what the skill in question was your abily to land an F16 with a flameout. With luck at least it is not fair in equal proportions.

yeah but there's no fun to be had in a game of rock paper scissors, whereas games of skill are fun to play and fun to watch. Being as the game would be chosen by an impartial 3rd party (preferably the President) we could avoid ridiculous scenarios such as you vs me at LFS or CS clan players against total nubs, so long as the game of skill chosen isn't something that one player has a huge advantage at then its all good.

[YegaDoyai]

No, sorry, games of skill will always be stacked and if it is skill in computer games then it would not take much cajoling to get larry to try and take all our names. A game of luck is interesting to watch and no fun to take part in. But if it is fun to take part in then there is more reason to do it, hence more likely that someone will challenge for a name. I mean, can you even name a game of skill that you could be confident at beating everyone at?

[Sideshow]

Yes. Oh, you were talking to Hex. Nevermind.

[Hex]

I mean, can you even name a game of skill that you could be confident at beating everyone at?

No, thats the whole point. If you lose a game of luck, then you got fucked over and there was nothing you could do about it. If you lose a game of skill, at least you had a chance to influence the outcome. The idea of using a game of skill is to have an even playing field while still allowing the players to actually influence the outcome. As you don't get to pick the game yourself it wouldn't matter for shit if I did have a game of skill I could beat everyone at! I feel you've thoroughly missed the point here tbh...

[DAve]

can we get a diff of the changes in the constitution please? (well, if possible)

The reason I'm asking is that we have to vote on any changes in the consitution at the AGM, we can't just change because it's a good idea, the whole club has to pass it with a majority vote (I think).

[Fyndir]

can we get a diff of the changes in the constitution please? (well, if possible)

The reason I'm asking is that we have to vote on any changes in the consitution at the AGM, we can't just change because it's a good idea, the whole club has to pass it with a majority vote (I think).

Silly DAve.

HEIL PIXTLER!

HEIL PIXTLER!

HEIL PIXTLER!

[Uuurrahh]

Yes, I call for a plebiscite! If this fails we shall have to cause a ruccus in our local Beer Hall.

[CaNNoN_FoDDa]

You were going to anyway.

[Hex]

Rofl, i'd love to see Euan try and start a putsch in a Glasgwegian beer hall :lol:

[Fyndir]

Rofl, i'd love to see Euan try and start a putsch in a Glasgwegian beer hall :lol:

You're forgetting.

He has me.

[YegaDoyai]

In a force of arms in a gameing sense I think I could probably drum up more support than hex so that is no issue. What I'm suggesting is that a game of skill will always be stacked in favour of the elite youngteam and then after them the core of me, sideshow and pixie. On average you all would be beaten in a 1v1 contest by the above mentioned meaning that the above could act with impuniuty.

In a game of luck no one player has the advantage (with the exception of the luck of the pit) and therefore has a more 'fair' advantage. I know players like to 'up' thier prowess; but on average, across games titles, the majority of the regulaners are less than that of the of young team. And would frequently fall to even the likes of me and pixie who are hordcore gamers but nowhere near the level of the youngteam average.

Hex, in a 3 game challenge would you fancy your chances against any of young team or me, pixie, sideshow? Really? Considering you are one of the better 'other' gamers even if you do; do you think that it is fair to stack one of the core v a n00b?

Of course not. Luck may suck if you lose but at least it it is not determined by number of hours dedicated to a souless pursuit.

[Uuurrahh]

Rofl, i'd love to see Euan try and start a putsch in a Glasgwegian beer hall :lol:

Bavarian, foo'. And if it went historically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch) it'd fail :(

However Adolf didn't have Feldmanntrollen Fyndir handing out armbands at the door.

[Hex]

Hex, in a 3 game challenge would you fancy your chances against any of young team or me, pixie, sideshow? Really? Considering you are one of the better 'other' gamers even if you do; do you think that it is fair to stack one of the core v a n00b?


That would honestly depend upon your 3 games. If it was CS:S/Quake/other common FPS games, no my chances would probably be shit. If it was an RTS game, similar applies, same for LFS as I don't even play it. However, introduce other titles to the arena and you have a different story - I'm reasonably confident I could beat most of you at Tony hawk's Pro Skater, Bust-a-Move, Super Monkey Ball, or Soul Calibur 2. If the choice of 3 games was both varied and impartial then it would be a good way to settle things. If on the other hand the choice of games was restricted to titles we normally play at a LAN, your point would indeed be correct. Either way, I take your point - a game of luck is fair and its far less hassle than organising a fair game of skill.

[DAve]

What I'm suggesting is that a game of skill will always be stacked in favour of the elite youngteam and then after them the core of me, sideshow and pixie.
This was put in as a rule in case a tournament was tied. To stop a 3 hour tournament being decided on a toss of a coin, I left it up to the president to decide how to choose a victor.

As usual, everything on this forum gets blown out of all reasonable proportions.

[Sideshow]

As the words "Soul Calibur 2" were spoken, select ears perked, select eyes lit up, and a call for the next lan went up: "Bring a PS2". So yeah, me and Mogwai will CU @ LAN M8

[Hex]

As the words "Soul Calibur 2" were spoken, select ears perked, select eyes lit up, and a call for the next lan went up: "Bring a PS2". So yeah, me and Mogwai will CU @ LAN M8

Fraid it'll have to be the Gamecube version, for I own this beauty :
http://image4.play-asia.com/350/PA.02831.001.jpg
and I can't play the game for shit without it. I'll gladly provide a gamecube, my copy of the game, my stick and a pad.

[Sideshow]

lol, I think the handicap of a gamecube pad might be too much to overcome.

[Hex]

well the offer's there if you fancy it, I would suggest a gamecube/ps2 pad converter but they generally only register a single button at a time, making them pretty fucking useless....

[YegaDoyai]

my point is the games would need to be restricted to the games played at the lan. How else do we get to settle the dispute.

"oh hang on I'll just run home and get my console"

fuck that, it would have to be the games we play or games that are on the PC at least. That way we can always ensure we have the game and equipment to play them.

[Hex]

my point is the games would need to be restricted to the games played at the lan. How else do we get to settle the dispute.

"oh hang on I'll just run home and get my console"

fuck that, it would have to be the games we play or games that are on the PC at least. That way we can always ensure we have the game and equipment to play them.

Dude you live even closer than I do to Uni, and I'd be more than happy to walk to Hyndland and back to settle a dispute. Either way tbh as I already stated ensuring a fair game of skill would be ridiculously over-complicated, whereas a coin-toss, while less entertaining, is way less trouble. More to the point, when have we ever actually had a dispute at a LAN? The only one I ever remember is a dispute about whether the war-cow model for UT99 was fair - I think eventually it was concluded that it was, as you *can* get a hs on the cow, you just have to hit it in the neck rather than the head. Sideshow may dispute my reckoning on this, I seem to remember it was him complaining about the cow model ;-)

[GingerPrinz]

What about a random flash game, best high score out of 3 wins?

[Hex]

Hehe, neat idea, but it'd probably only lead to argument about which site, how to randomly choose a game, etc, etc, etc. Given the general unlikely-ness of this ever actually needing to be used I guess keeping it simple (i.e. coin toss) is probs smart.

Btw, changing the subject completely, I'd like to motion for an adition to Section 10, matters of Society Dogma:

10.2 Spawn camping, especially with scoped weapons and/or heavy vehicles shall result in a swift slap upside the head. Repeated offenses shall lead to punishment by TK (if a team game) or mass ganging up (if a free for all/DM game). This action shall be applicable to all spawn points, be they player spawns (your teams OR the enemies) or weapon/item spawns.

[YegaDoyai]

If we need to put simple "code of conduct" type rules in the constitution then that does not speak very highly of our members. I think that rule is best left to the unwritten constitution.

[DAve]

If we need to put simple "code of conduct" type rules in the constitution then that does not speak very highly of our members. I think that rule is best left to the unwritten constitution.
Finally! someone making sense!

I tried to do this with the forum rules too (act with common sense) on the grounds that people are basically decent people with some inate reasoning skills. Most days it works, sometimes I've just had to shout "GAH!" at the monitor and walk away.

[Hex]

Meh, I only mention it because someone at the last LAN (I forget who) spent a good ten minutes camping an un-capturable command point on BF2 with a tank, killing people the second they spawned. More to the point, section 10 is hardly the most serious section of the constitution, hence talk of swift slapping upside the head. Still, I'll withdraw said motion as its met with such unenthusiastic responses.

Oh and just for the record, I fundamentally disagree with the notion that people possess inate reasoning skills, people are muppets...but hey, my lack of faith in the human race probably shouldn't be adopted on any kind of grand scale ^^

[saladin]

Ok which joker unblocked the Asian IP ranges?

[Sid]

Ok which joker unblocked the Asian IP ranges?
It was this joker! :D

It's the removal of new registration moderation that's letting some spammers through.

I think it's better not to have user registration moderation, and just ban spammers when they spam rather than making registration an inconvenience for everyone. A couple of spam posts every few days is quick and easy to remove and isn't really a nuisance, in my opinion. On the other hand, registering for a forum then not getting to post for a few days is a pain in the arse.

/cue uproar! :p

[Hex]

It was this joker! :D

It's the removal of new registration moderation that's letting some spammers through.

I think it's better not to have user registration moderation, and just ban spammers when they spam rather than making registration an inconvenience for everyone. A couple of spam posts every few days is quick and easy to remove and isn't really a nuisance, in my opinion. On the other hand, registering for a forum then not getting to post for a few days is a pain in the arse.

/cue uproar! :p

I thoroughly agree with you. New user moderation is bs, and if the forum mods go on holiday or whatever then new users will wait for more than days. I tried to register for an account on scottishdrumandbass.com months ago and have heard nothing back from whoever has to sanction my account.

For all that though, I'm not the one that has to waste time every day banning spammer accounts so I guess my position is somewhat biased.

[saladin]

I thoroughly agree with you. New user moderation is bs, and if the forum mods go on holiday or whatever then new users will wait for more than days. I tried to register for an account on scottishdrumandbass.com months ago and have heard nothing back from whoever has to sanction my account.

For all that though, I'm not the one that has to waste time every day banning spammer accounts so I guess my position is somewhat biased.

That's because you're a dick and no-one from scottishdrumandbass.com wants to associate with you. Sorry, man.

[Hex]

Slow day Sally? :-P

[DAve]

That's because you're a dick and no-one from scottishdrumandbass.com wants to associate with you. Sorry, man.

best put-down ever.